RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.

Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:10:05 -0800

First, I have no affiliation with Ipswitch what so ever. I am a small one person business and in fact I only have about 350 e-mail addresses that my Imail server process e-mail for, so I am small potatoes compared to most of you. I do have the Professional SA and will go towards the unlimited as I hope one day when I have the time to increase the number of e-mail addressed processed on my server to a thousand or so.

 

In spite of others opinions, I do agree that the pricing for a unlimited SA should be higher, as figure what you get out of it. Here is what I think the levels should be and the associated SA pricing for Imail standalone: (note difference in levels after a comment by Kevin)

 

100 User        $75

500 user        $150

1000 user      $400

5000 user      $750

Unlimited user $1200

 

I also think there should be a clustering option for the 5000 user and unlimited user levels, whereby you pay say 50% for the second (3rd 4th 5th whatever) license but one SA covers all the servers in the cluster. (There would need to be some way of making the activation and use of the additional licenses dependent on the first one. If SA was renewed, all would accept updates, upgrades.)

 

John T

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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.

 

That would pretty much clinch Imail server as being extortionware in my book. There's simply no reason in my mind that we should be pay another 50% increase for an SA two years in a row. I think I'll look into investing in Smartertools as they're about to get another big boost in revenue.

John T (Lists) wrote: 

To be honest, Kevin did mention what the prices would be close to, however I
was in my car driving home after being at a client for 6 hours and I was
tired and hungry, so I do not remember what numbers he said, but I will say
that either the 1000 user SA or unlimited user SA will have a MSRP of about
$995.
 
John T
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.
 
Decisions are best based upon facts as opposed speculation.
 
Why the mystery about the new cost of SA? Why can't IPSwitch be
upfront, rather than sell the idea of buying an SA at the prevailing
cost?
 
 
Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 6:35:28 PM, John T (Lists)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JTL> Responding to several posts and further information. What I am going
    



to post
  



JTL> is my thoughts/opinions/knowledge based on what I have read, those I
    



have
  



JTL> talked to now and in the past, reading between the lines, and my gut
JTL> feelings. And believe me, my gut is way too big.
 
JTL> First of all, we all know and understand that Ipswitch really took a
    



turn
  



JTL> for the worse around 3rd quarter of 2004. (It may have even been a
    



little
  



JTL> earlier.) Just prior to that our beloved John Korsak left to pursue
    



other
  



JTL> interests. With that, a new management team was in place at Ipswitch.
    



Part
  



JTL> of the management was Jill Jones. My conversations with her at the
    



time of
  



JTL> ICS introduction left me with a bad taste, albeit one I was able to
    



accept
  



JTL> under my circumstances. That new management team basically turned a
    



deaf
  



ear
JTL> to the needs of many us, being ISPs and small to large hosting
    



providers.
  



JTL> Well, it appears that Jill Jones is either no longer with Ipswitch or
    



has
  



JTL> been reassigned to a lesser role and Kevin Gillis is now in charge or
    



major
  



JTL> part of Product Management. I am not sure what his exact title is.
 
JTL> The gist of this is that Ipswitch decided in the second half of 2004
    



that
  



JTL> they wanted to pursue a different cliental, underestimating the value
    



of
  



JTL> their current client base at that time. In doing so, they alienated
    



many of
  



JTL> us, and lost a lot of business which was not recovered in their new
    



focus
  



JTL> like they thought it would. Now they have a new/revamped management
    



team
  



in
JTL> place and have realized the harm that was done and are making
    



progress
  



JTL> towards resolving that. Are they going to win back everyone who left,
    



no.
  



JTL> Are they going to please everyone, no. But they are trying, and they
    



are
  



JTL> listening.
 
JTL> It appears that they are now going to offer Imail in 3 forms:
    



Standalone,
  



JTL> Secure server, and a complete Suite. Each will be offered in 5 levels
    



based
  



JTL> on users: 25, 100, 250, 1000 and unlimited. Personally, I would have
    



like to
  



JTL> seen 100, 250, 1000, 5000 and unlimited. Although I do not know what
    



exactly
  



JTL> the new prices will be for standalone, from what Kevin told me on the
    



phone
  



JTL> while I was driving home I for the most part accept as sensible what
    



the
  



JTL> pricing will be except like I said I feel drop the 25 and add 5000.
 
JTL> So what does my rambling mean?
 
JTL> If you have Imail standalone with/with out a current SA I recommend
    



the
  



JTL> following:
JTL> If you have under 100 users, wait for the new SA pricing.
JTL> If you have over 1000 users, purchase a Imail Professional SA now.
JTL> If you are between those amounts, you could save some money or spend
    



a
  



JTL> little more money if you buy a SA right now.
 
JTL> It also means I will continue to use Imail and offer my
    



support/assistance
  



JTL> to others when I can, continue to offer Imail support services to
    



clients
  



JTL> and once again offer Imail as a possible solution for clients.
 
JTL> John T
JTL> eServices For You
 
 
 
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