Any "good" email client should suppress autoresponses (and probably vacation
messages) to received email that has the Precedence: bulk or list header.
Her client (or whatever is generating the autoresponses) is inserting the
Precedence: bulk header in order to let the receiving end know not to send
an autoresponse to her autoresponse.

She has set up an autoresponse instead of a vacation message as that is the
only way that the list would be receiving autoresponses from her that are
just responses to her autoresponse (this is her mistake-if she had set up a
vacation message instead we would have only seen one vacation response from
her as it does keep a list of those it has responded to).

But the message we see from the list does not contain her headers-it has the
headers that the list server inserts-and the list server is inserting
"X-Imail: List" instead of "Precedence: list".  The lack of the "Precedence:
list" header from the list server is what has changed in the last couple of
weeks.


Michael Hoyt
Communication Arts
110 Constitution Drive
Menlo Park, CA  94025
(650) 326-6040  fax:(650) 326-1648

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.commarts.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Precedence: list & the auto responses


Actually, this person is using Imail 9.03 and the headers of the notice I
received directly from her has the proper line indicating a bulk sending.

This is from the headers of a notice I received directly (since I have an
Outlook rule forwarding all her stupid notices.)

X-Mailer: <SMTP32 v9.03>
Precedence: bulk

To me, this indicates 2 things: She has it set up as an auto responder and
it is looping since she then gets the notice via the list and the latest
version of the list server is striping the "Precedence: bulk" line and
inserting "X-Imail: List" in its place.

Comments from Ipswitch?

John T
eServices For You

"Seek, and ye shall find!"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hoyt
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:45 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Precedence: list & the auto responses
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matti Haack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Michael Hoyt" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Precedence: list & the auto responses
>
>
> >
> > MH> Hey Tyran, nice catch on the Precedence header!
> > Looks like nobody at ipswitch cares about this as the fact
> > was discovered already one week before... Or they are unable
> > to solve it...
>
> They seem to be satisfied with just removing the vacationing members from
> the list.
>
> > "Precedence: bulk" is missing in the mail headers.
>
> They do have a header: "X-IMail: List" but I don't think the email clients
> know what to do with this.
>
> > As I didn't dare to update to 2006, can anybody check if
> > this is an issue with the latest version of Imail or just
> > with the build Ipswitch uses for this list?
> > Matti
> Way to poke 'em in the eye.
>
> Michael Hoyt
> Communication Arts
> 110 Constitution Drive
> Menlo Park, CA  94025
> (650) 326-6040  fax:(650) 326-1648
>
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Site: http://www.commarts.com
>
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