It can be argued that software developers might have a certain moral
interest in patching their software if the vulnerability can be used
to hurt others. Windows 95 is pretty long in tooth, and few systems
are still running on Windows 95. Imail 8.x on the other hand is not
even comparatively old to Windows 2000, and a great number of servers
are still running that version of software. The real question is when
is that line drawn in the sand. When should a product no longer be
supported for patches? Ipswitch says it's as soon as a new version
comes out. I am sure what they would like is a subscription model that
keeps the cash rolling in, and that is almost what they have achieved.
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *John T
(Lists)
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2006 2:01 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA?
So if a vulnerability is discovered in Windows 95, Microsoft
should spend the time and resources developing a patch to fix it?
What about all those software vendors that were using old style
parallel port keys that became obsolete when Windows XP came out?
Should those software vendors have been forced to provide entirely
new versions of software and keys that were working perfectly fine
under DOS 6.22 or Windows 3.1 for free?
**John T**
**eServices For You**
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**"Seek, and ye shall find!"**
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jim F.
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:45 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA?
>> The answer is obvious, time to drop Imail. <<
The only problem is that the alternatives aren't exactly that
great. SmarterMail looks like a great product, but it's still
lacking some of the fundamental elements of a corporate mail
server like TLS. They also remind me now of how IPswitch was 5 or
6 years ago. I'm afraid that if I jump ship to SM, in a few
years they'll start going down the same over-priced,
feature-bloated, performance-lacking, unstability-ridden road that
Ipswitch (and Declude) did. I've looked at the other alternative
products and none are really that viable IMO.
I would love it if there were a full featured Open Source mail
server. Not that I am looking to save money - I'd just like to be
able to use a product that is driven by functionality instead of
the bean counters.
FWIW, I didn't renew my IMail service agreement that expired a
month or two ago. I'm not sure what I'm holding out for, but I
don't want to feel like I'm being robbed by paying Ipswitch to use
their product. That said, I'm not using a version with a
vulnerability in it, but that shouldn't matter. If a
vulnerability is discovered in any version of a piece of software,
the vendor should provide a patch regardless of SA status.
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tyran
Ormond
*Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2006 6:17 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA?
On 05:41 PM 10/23/2006 -0400, it would appear that Mike N wrote:
Now that there's been an SMTP exploit released (yesterday) for the
recently patched SMTP bug, you are running on borrowed time until
someone decides to try it on your server.
Stay with possibly exploitable version of the server or upgrade to
a feature and bug rich version that doesn't have the exploit? The
answer is obvious, time to drop Imail. It's been a long run (7
years) but the handwriting is clearly on the wall.
----- Original Message -----
From: Troy D. Hilton <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA?
Weve been running Imail 7.15 for a few years now and its been
running very well. Well, its time to renew my SA with Ipswitch
but Im wondering is it worth it?
In following this list I see that the latest versions of Imail
have been far from stellar, so Im know I will not be upgrading to
2006.x anytime soon. I think Ive seen that 8.22 is pretty stable
but is it worth the upgrade from a 7.15 thats old but stable, to
a 8.22? Is it worth it for me to spend the money for an SA for Imail?
Opinions?
Tyran Ormond
Programmer/LAN Administrator
Central Valley Water Reclamation Facility
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