Ah, now the truth be told. It is a McCrappy problem. 

John T


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Stanford
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backscatter
> 
> Unfortunately I have McAfee's Webshield in front of my server on the same
> box. There is no way for me to drop mail destined for invalid recipients
> since it just passes through after virus/content filtering. This has
caused
> a lot of bounce backs from within my server also. I had to put a rule in
> place to delete the emails with the bounce so that it is not passed back
and
> forth.
> 
> I am currently looking into Iron Port and Barracuda Spam Firewall to
replace
> Webshield. I would certainly think either one of these solutions has the
> ability to do what you suggest.
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Marchette
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backscatter
> 
> This implies that you are accepting emails to unknown recipients, and then
> processing them, and bouncing if invalid.  Instead, what you should do is
> drop mail destined for invalid recipients, at the envelope level.
> This way, there is never a bounce, just a dropped connection.
> 
> If you have servers in front of Imail(sounds like you do), then make sure
> the recipient list is loaded there as well or that the front end mail
> gateway is checking back to Imail for valid recipients *before* it tries
to
> accept mail.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Stanford
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backscatter
> 
> 
> I don't understand....
> 
> My server receives an email to an unknown user on my domain. How can I
turn
> it off so that my server does not send a notice back, to the spoofed
> address, that it is a bad address?
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (lists)
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backscatter
> 
> No, if your server rejects it for invalid address, the sending server is
the
> one that is generating the NDR, not yours. It is the problem of the
sending
> server that is connecting to yours, that server is either acting as an
open
> relay or has one (or more) of its users that is compromised.
> 
> John T
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Hyer
> > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:36 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backscatter
> >
> > This refers to someone sending TO an invalid address on my server and
> > then the bounces go to the spoofed senders.  It is a way to get spam
> > to bounce off your server and get delivered.
> >
> > Doug Traylor wrote:
> >
> > > Steve Hyer wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have a work around to turn off non local NDR's to
> > > prevent backscatter in IMAIL?
> > > > This would prevent people from spoofing the FROM and then sending
> > > > to
> > > a known address that
> > > > will bounce emails to have the bouncebacks consequently delivered
> > > > to
> > > the spoofed FROM address.
> > >
> > > Are you referring to email To someone in your domain that is not a
> > > valid user, causing a "local"(?) NDR to go to the spoofed From
> address?
> > > Or, are you referring to an email To somebody outside of your domain
> 
> > > but spoofed as From somebody in your domain and you are receiving
> > > the NDR's?
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
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