I would like to add that the IE admin kit, is quite good... easy to use and
so on....
Can even throw your own logo's in there and so on...
We use it on our intranet, and it works great, even for the people who are
afraid of a computer.
We had a similar issue... all systems, with no CD Roms, and no internet
access. Now everyone is up to date, and everyone had done the install them
selves, with little to no help from out IT Department.
-Dustin-
-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Rapson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
Might I recommend the IE Administrator's Kit. It's free from MS, and will
allow you to create a downloadable version you can deploy to your intranet,
creating a single-click upgrade (or even a forced upgrade via re-direct upon
detection of version 3 browser.) You can even customize the version to
reflect your needs, and create a completely transparent install for your
users. They would just get a message to "Wait while we upgrade your
browser" message. I believe it'll even reboot itself when it needs to, so
they can go on a coffee break while it's working.
It's really that easy, and shouldn't be a big problem to roll out.
Again, I agree that Ipswitch needs to fix their Docs or even provide working
templates until they do. I think it was just a documentation oversite when
they went from version 4 to 5 and 6. I believe their version 4 templates
did work with version 3 browsers, but they were internal to IMail, and not
customizable. The new ones are much nicer.
If you want, we can continue this off-list.
Rocky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
I can.
I have 300+ users, in 32 branches accross Canada on an Intranet, with no
Internet access. I could burn 32 copies of IE4.0 and have them install the
software, but most of my clients are computer illiterate, not to mention
that none of our systems have CDRom's I would have to map a drive to the
server CDROM. I would have to do it myself. Not an easy task. The way I see
it since IPSwitch claims to require IE3+ then they are responsible for
ensuring that this is possible.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Rapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>I agree on the erroneous documentation. They should change that or provide
>templates that work. However, my preferred solution would be to change the
>documentation and require version 4 browsers.
>
>But still, with free browser upgrades readily available, I can't think of a
>valid reason to NOT upgrade.
>
>Rocky
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 3:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>
>
>Sorry I am going to have to disagree with that one.
>
>Since 95 ships with IE3.x and most people are still using Win95 I would say
>that IE3.x is still a very active browser and not old tech at all. Although
>there are two versions newer.
>
>but that aside I quote the Imail users guide:
>'To access their e-mail via the web, users need a frams-capable browser....
>Web Messaging is designed to support Microsoft Internet Explorer version 3
>or later....'
>
>Ok so some templates don't work with IE3.x Acceptable, but there should be
>at least one that does, or change the systems requirements to reflect the
>facts.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rocky Rapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 3:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>
>
>>I'm going to jump in here on this one. There comes a point where, in
order
>>to provide the improved functionality on a site, you have to force clients
>>to move up to at least semi-current technology or be left out. Version 3
>>browsers are very old tech these days, and should have been dropped long
>>ago. They just don't support the functionality required to provide
webmail
>>services.
>>
>>What I would do is write a front-end page to check browser versions, and
>>either forward to the login for > 4 versions or forward to an "Upgraded
>>Browser Required" page, with links to the appropriate site to download the
>>free upgrade.
>>
>>It isn't like anyone has to pay to upgrade these days.
>>
>>This conversation sounds to me like people complaining they can't open
>Excel
>>2000 spreadsheets in the DOS version of Lotus 123.
>>
>>My .02
>>
>>Rocky
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jason Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:13 PM
>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>
>>
>>Exactly.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jeff Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 3:01 PM
>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>
>>
>>>Fire the web designer than.... You should always ensure cross browser
>>>capability. I cannot force all my clients to use ie4
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Grant Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:40 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would upgrade! Most web pages now adays rpobably will not work
>>correctly
>>>with Version 3 borwsers.
>>>>
>>>>Grant
>>>>
>>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>>From: "Jeff Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:30:35 -0400
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>nor do any other templates. I am trying to find a work around for this.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jason Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:16 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it true that IE3 does not work with the default templates that
>>come
>>>with IMail Web Messaging 6?
>>>>>
>>>>> ==================================================
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