Thanks for the tip (Rocky too),
I am on MS web page as we speak getting set up.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dustin Krysak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>I would like to add that the IE admin kit, is quite good... easy to use and
>so on....
>
>Can even throw your own logo's in there and so on...
>We use it on our intranet, and it works great, even for the people who are
>afraid of a computer.
>
>
>We had a similar issue... all systems, with no CD Roms, and no internet
>access. Now everyone is up to date, and everyone had done the install them
>selves, with little to no help from out IT Department.
>
>-Dustin-
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rocky Rapson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:27 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>
>
>Might I recommend the IE Administrator's Kit. It's free from MS, and will
>allow you to create a downloadable version you can deploy to your intranet,
>creating a single-click upgrade (or even a forced upgrade via re-direct
upon
>detection of version 3 browser.) You can even customize the version to
>reflect your needs, and create a completely transparent install for your
>users. They would just get a message to "Wait while we upgrade your
>browser" message. I believe it'll even reboot itself when it needs to, so
>they can go on a coffee break while it's working.
>
>It's really that easy, and shouldn't be a big problem to roll out.
>
>Again, I agree that Ipswitch needs to fix their Docs or even provide
working
>templates until they do. I think it was just a documentation oversite when
>they went from version 4 to 5 and 6. I believe their version 4 templates
>did work with version 3 browsers, but they were internal to IMail, and not
>customizable. The new ones are much nicer.
>
>If you want, we can continue this off-list.
>
>Rocky
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>
>
>I can.
>
>I have 300+ users, in 32 branches accross Canada on an Intranet, with no
>Internet access. I could burn 32 copies of IE4.0 and have them install the
>software, but most of my clients are computer illiterate, not to mention
>that none of our systems have CDRom's I would have to map a drive to the
>server CDROM. I would have to do it myself. Not an easy task. The way I see
>it since IPSwitch claims to require IE3+ then they are responsible for
>ensuring that this is possible.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rocky Rapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>
>
>>I agree on the erroneous documentation. They should change that or
provide
>>templates that work. However, my preferred solution would be to change
the
>>documentation and require version 4 browsers.
>>
>>But still, with free browser upgrades readily available, I can't think of
a
>>valid reason to NOT upgrade.
>>
>>Rocky
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jeff Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 3:04 PM
>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>
>>
>>Sorry I am going to have to disagree with that one.
>>
>>Since 95 ships with IE3.x and most people are still using Win95 I would
say
>>that IE3.x is still a very active browser and not old tech at all.
Although
>>there are two versions newer.
>>
>>but that aside I quote the Imail users guide:
>>'To access their e-mail via the web, users need a frams-capable
browser....
>>Web Messaging is designed to support Microsoft Internet Explorer version 3
>>or later....'
>>
>>Ok so some templates don't work with IE3.x Acceptable, but there should be
>>at least one that does, or change the systems requirements to reflect the
>>facts.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rocky Rapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 3:52 PM
>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>
>>
>>>I'm going to jump in here on this one. There comes a point where, in
>order
>>>to provide the improved functionality on a site, you have to force
clients
>>>to move up to at least semi-current technology or be left out. Version 3
>>>browsers are very old tech these days, and should have been dropped long
>>>ago. They just don't support the functionality required to provide
>webmail
>>>services.
>>>
>>>What I would do is write a front-end page to check browser versions, and
>>>either forward to the login for > 4 versions or forward to an "Upgraded
>>>Browser Required" page, with links to the appropriate site to download
the
>>>free upgrade.
>>>
>>>It isn't like anyone has to pay to upgrade these days.
>>>
>>>This conversation sounds to me like people complaining they can't open
>>Excel
>>>2000 spreadsheets in the DOS version of Lotus 123.
>>>
>>>My .02
>>>
>>>Rocky
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jason Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:13 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>>
>>>
>>>Exactly.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Jeff Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 3:01 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fire the web designer than.... You should always ensure cross browser
>>>>capability. I cannot force all my clients to use ie4
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Grant Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:40 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I would upgrade! Most web pages now adays rpobably will not work
>>>correctly
>>>>with Version 3 borwsers.
>>>>>
>>>>>Grant
>>>>>
>>>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>>>From: "Jeff Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:30:35 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>>nor do any other templates. I am trying to find a work around for
this.
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Jason Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Version 3 Browsers and Web Messaging
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it true that IE3 does not work with the default templates that
>>>come
>>>>with IMail Web Messaging 6?
>>>>>>
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