Why a 'bug'? IMail is doing as it is supposed to and as the documentation
states!
It might be less than perfect in that there is no way to specify the mode of
operation you want, but a 'bug' is something that is broken, not something
that is not there (at least in my mind!). I found a way to make IMail do
something it does not normally support and you call that a bug!
Lycos defines bug as: "An error or defect in software or hardware that
causes a program to malfunction."
I classify it as a 'feature request'!
Daniel Donnelly
________________________________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonas Fornander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> I would classify this as a bug.
>
> Jonas Fornander - System Administrator
> Netwood Communications, LLC - www.netwood.net
> Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:23 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> >
> >
> > Terry,
> >
> > Thanks, seemed to work and from past experience with IMail, it is highly
> > likely to have little or no overall effect (except the desired
> > one!) on the
> > List Servers.
> >
> > KB.... here we come!
> >
> > Daniel Donnelly
> > ________________________________________________________
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Smart Business Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> >
> >
> > > Good solution, Dan.
> > >
> > > I tried this and got your results too. I think perhaps the disable
list
> > > command turns off the list of users.
> > >
> > > Terry Fritts
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Daniel Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 9:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tried a couple more things and find that if I make the lists.txt
file
> > read
> > > > only, IMail can still modify the file and change the permissions. So
I
> > > then
> > > > changed the security on the file, so that 'System' has read
> > only access,
> > > > then the file was no longer modified and I was still able to create
a
> > new
> > > > list. Again, I have not fully tested this, but so far, I have not
had
> > any
> > > > problems after doing this.
> > > >
> > > > Here is my modified lists.txt:
> > > > # Ipswitch, Inc. list server
> > > > # Sorry, you cannot get the list names!
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it would be a good idea to have a completely
> > empty file as
> > > the
> > > > email coming back, won't tell the sender anything and the message
will
> > be
> > > > 'empty', so that is why I put the second line in the file (#
> > is to show
> > a
> > > > comment!).
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Donnelly
> > > > ________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Daniel Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:28 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Terry,
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm.... I also tried it, but differently from yesterday
> > and I too am
> > > > > getting the response. Yesterday I was using telnet session
> > to send the
> > > > mail
> > > > > and did not get a response, but today using an email client, I do.
> > > Almost
> > > > > sure this worked in the past, but been quite some time
> > since I visited
> > > > this
> > > > > issue. I don't find any other methods of keeping this response
from
> > > being
> > > > > sent.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like the 'Disable List command' is only when one sends 'list
> > > > listname'
> > > > > (the list of users for that list) and SMTP setting disables EXPN
> > > command.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did rename the lists.txt file in the \list folder that stores
the
> > list
> > > > of
> > > > > lists and IMail created a new one when I sent the test message and
> > this
> > > > time
> > > > > returned only the first line, '# Ipswitch, Inc. list
> > server'. Not sure
> > > of
> > > > > all the ramifications yet, of not having this file or not having
it
> > > > > 'correct', but it did not affect adding a new list (I had to
delete
> > the
> > > > line
> > > > > in the file for this new list!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Some limited testing seems to show that things work OK (I've not
> > > > encountered
> > > > > problems so far!). So it looks like one can delete/rename
> > 'lists.txt'
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > \imail\lists folder, without causing trouble. Note that IMail will
> > > > recreate
> > > > > this file as needed (like when it does not exist and list command
is
> > > sent
> > > > or
> > > > > when a new list is created).
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel Donnelly
> > > > > ________________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Smart Business Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:37 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I tried what you described on my server with latest
> > patches running
> > on
> > > > > > Win2k.
> > > > > > Turned off view local groups.
> > > > > > Went to list and checked Disable List Command on the list.
> > > > > > Stopped/Restarted SMTP for good measure while I was there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then sent message to imailsrv with "list" in the message body.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Got back a message from imailsrv with subject "list of lists"
and
> > the
> > > > name
> > > > > > of the list in the body.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At lleast mine doesn't seem to behave as expected.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terry Fritts
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Daniel Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:09 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jonas,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, I guess I did not read your message carefully enough, so
> > gave
> > > > you
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > bit of misdirection. The SMTP Security setting,
> > disables the EXPN
> > > > > command
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > SMTP, so when that setting is enabled and then EXPN given,
IMail
> > > says
> > > > > > 'Lists
> > > > > > > are confidential'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only way to disable the 'list' command in imailsrv,
> > is in each
> > > > List.
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > > > to the Security tab and find the 'Disable List Command'
> > and check
> > > that
> > > > > > box,
> > > > > > > click Apply and do this for each list in each domain
> > that you want
> > > it
> > > > > shut
> > > > > > > off.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Daniel Donnelly
> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Jonas Fornander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:37 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Allow remote view of local groups" is un-checked but I
still
> > get
> > > a
> > > > > list
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > all lists if I send the "list" command to the list server.
The
> > > from
> > > > > > > address
> > > > > > > > is (null) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jonas Fornander - System Administrator
> > > > > > > > Netwood Communications, LLC - www.netwood.net
> > > > > > > > Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Daniel
> > > > > > Donnelly
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:27 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jonas,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In the SMTP Security, 'Allow remote view of local groups'
is
> > the
> > > > > > > > > one you are
> > > > > > > > > looking for! Don't forget to stop/start SMTP service
after
> > > making
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > change.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Daniel Donnelly
> > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Jonas Fornander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:05 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Disable "list" command
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to disable the "list" command all
> > together? I
> > > > don't
> > > > > > > want
> > > > > > > > > > anyone to be able to send just "list" to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > and
> > > > > get
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > listing of all lists. It would be preferable if that
could
> > be
> > > > > turned
> > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > per
> > > > > > > > > > domain.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jonas Fornander - System Administrator
> > > > > > > > > > Netwood Communications, LLC - www.netwood.net
> > > > > > > > > > Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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