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Ben BC Web ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMAP4 (was SMTP Relay. What can we do better) > well i just tried it, using imail 704hf1, > i emailed a message to don-hello at mydomain dot com > checked email, nothing there, watched the syslog as everything went through, > and it went thru the same process as any other email would do > i checked the imail server for any new alias' or usernames, or lists, > Nothing new there. > i went to the webmail, and found a newly created folder named hello > contents of folder was the message i had sent to don-hello > so recap > what it did for me is created a folder with the same name as whatever is > after the dash. > had i not checked web mail I'd have never known about it. > i do believe you can setup outlook and possibly some other clients to check > a folder, i seem to recall a post related to that a while back, but don't > remember how exactly, i think it was to put the smtp dot domain dot com / > foldername or :foldername > i haven't tried that yet tho > > Don > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Hell > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [IMail Forum] IMAP4 (was SMTP Relay. What can we do better) > > > Here's an cool IMAP4 trick: > > When entering your email address at a web site (seems like just about every > website wants your email address these days) use a dash and then a unique > idetifier after your name and before the @ sign. > > For example, if your email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and amazom.com > wants your email address, use > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > now, when mail is sent to that address, it will go to your joeuser account, > and a mailbox named amazon will be automagicly created! Now, anything they > send you will go into that box (and you can also tell if they sold your > address). Yes, it's alot like being able to create email addresses on the > fly. > > This will also work with POP3, but you would need to log into each mailbox > as if it was a separate account. > > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "IMail Admin at BC Web" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > You would have to select the outbound SMTP server for each account, but > not > > for each message. If you have multiple IMAP accounts setup in OE, then > the > > from line has a drop down box to allow you to select which account you are > > using to send the message. > > > > I think IMAP is superior to POP3 because it more gracefully handles access > > from multiple locations. However, IMail has had long standing issues with > > IMAP, mainly a problem with "invisible mail." Ipswitch's techs swear to > me > > that upgrading to 7.04 will fix this, so we just made the upgrade. > > > > Ben > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Todd Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:00 PM > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > > > > I've never used IMAP, but I'll take your word for it on that. :-) > > > > > > Does that mean that you would have to select the SMTP server to use for > > each > > > outbound message? Sounds like a pain to me.:-( I prefer the POP3 > method > > of > > > selecting the outbound account and knowing that all messages will go > there > > > without doing anything other than pressing send. Maybe I should setup > > IMAP, > > > just to play with it!! > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of IMail Admin at > > > BC Web > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:54 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > > > > > > Todd, > > > > > > One correction to your statements: if you use IMAP instead of POP3, then > > > Outlook Express CAN send via different accounts. In that case, I think > > you > > > need to set the authentication checkbox to on for each account (which > > can't > > > hurt in any event). > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Todd Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:15 PM > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > > > > > > > My previous explanation was purely a server side perspective. > > > > > > > > For the client - If the server requires SMTP AUTH (which it should by > > > > now!!!), the client has 2 choices: > > > > (1) Do not supply authentication credentials; in which case the server > > > will > > > > deny all relaying attempts by this client. Typically reported to the > > user > > > > as error "relaying denied by this server: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" or > something > > > like > > > > that. > > > > (2) Do supply authentication credentials; in which case the server > will > > > > authenticate the client and if authentication passes, allow the SMTP > > relay > > > > (sending of outgoing message). > > > > > > > > To accomplish #2 above: You need to setup your client to login (send > > > > credentials) when attempting an SMTP relay (sending a message). In > > > > Outlook/Express, you need to goto Tools/Accounts, open the DEFAULT > > account > > > > (this is the one that has (default) next to the mail type, there can > be > > > only > > > > one default and this is the account that will be used to send all > > outgoing > > > > mail), then on the Servers tab check the "My Server Requires > > > Authentication" > > > > box. It normally defaults correctly, but you can press the settings > > > button, > > > > then verify that the "Use Same Settings As My Incoming Mail Server" > > radio > > > > button is selected. IMail server cannot use different credentials for > > > > POP3/SMTP on the same user, so as long as you set the POP3 server and > > SMTP > > > > server to the same IMail machine, you must use the "Use Same Settings > As > > > My > > > > Incoming Mail Server" radio button selection. Save everything and > send > > a > > > > message!! > > > > > > > > Contact me directly off list if you have more questions. > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of IMail Admin > at > > > > BC Web > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:48 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Todd, > > > > > > > > Very clear explanation. Now the question becomes: is SMTP AUTH really > > on > > > > all the time? In Outlook Express, there's an option, "server requires > > > > authentication for ourgoing (SMTP) mail," on the Server tab of the > > Account > > > > Properties dialog box. If this is unchecked, doesn't that mean the > > client > > > > will connect without SMTP AUTH? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Todd Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:20 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 2 solutions here that work independently, but in concert. > > > > > > > > > > 1. SMTP AUTH works all of the time. As far as I know, it cannot be > > > turned > > > > > off. It is independent of the relay setting. It is independent of > > the > > > IP > > > > > address. And the address can change anytime. All it needs is a > > > > connection > > > > > to port 25 of the IMail server. The client will send credentials to > > the > > > > > server for authentication on each SMTP session opened (basically, > each > > > > time > > > > > a message is sent). > > > > > > > > > > 2. The relay setting: If you use "No Relay", you can still have > > clients > > > > send > > > > > SMTP messages by using SMTP AUTH (remember, it can't be turned off). > > > > Using > > > > > "Relay for Addresses" is essentially a whitelist of IP addresses > that > > > can > > > > > send SMTP messages throught the server (relay) without requiring > > > > > authentication. Typically, these are machines that run automated > > > > processes > > > > > that generate email (i.e. not typically your domain controller). > > These > > > > are > > > > > also addresses that typically reside "inside" the firewall. This > > keeps > > > > them > > > > > from being spoofed. If you choose, you can specify a public IP > > address > > > > > (like a client's server, or perhaps their firewall public address if > > > they > > > > > are using NAT), but it may be possible to spoof this address (b/c > you > > > have > > > > > no control of what goes on out in the big, bad world). > > > > > > > > > > Summary: By using "Relay for Addresses", you allow a unknown number > of > > > > > clients with unknown IPs to relay after being authenticated and you > > > allow > > > > a > > > > > known number (keep this list as small as possible) of machines to > > relay > > > > > without authenticating. Be sure that you trust any machine on the > > > address > > > > > list!!! > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of IMail Admin > > at > > > > > BC Web > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:04 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are a couple of these messages that bring up a good point that > > I'm > > > > > unsure of: when you use "relay for address," how do you handle > clients > > > > when > > > > > you don't know their IP address? That is, is there a way to make > > "relay > > > > for > > > > > address" work for clients that may come through any arbitrary ISP > and > > > have > > > > > any (unknown) IP address? > > > > > > > > > > Ben Bednarz > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "John Tolmachoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:42 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although not the best way, I am currently using Relay for local host > > > > > only, with Declude Hijack running in back ground. It has solved > > problems > > > > > we have had in the past. > > > > > > > > > > We are unable to use relay for address because some of our clients > are > > > > > on DSL which uses DHCP. And some of these users are MAC. > > > > > > > > > > Unless someone has a better idea. > > > > > > > > > > John Tolmachoff, Network Engineer > > > > > > > > > > 211 E. Imperial Hwy., Suite 106 > > > > > Fullerton, CA 92835 > > > > > 714-578-7999, ext. 104 > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > www.reliancesoft.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott > > Perry > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:04 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Last week, a person was able to relay 300,000 emails through our > > Imail > > > > > >server. Our current relay is setup for USERS only. > > > > > > > > > > So you were allowing him to send spam. > > > > > > > > > > >The person was able to relay mail through our system by changing > his > > > > > computer > > > > > >name to a domain name in IMail, and creating an email account on > his > > > > > computer > > > > > >the same as an email account in one of our Imail domains. > > > > > > > > > > No, it's not nearly that difficult. In their spamware, when asked > > "What > > > > > > > > > > address do you want listed as the sender of the E-mail", they just > > > > > entered > > > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". No changing of computer names, no creating > > > > > E-mail > > > > > accounts, no hacking involved. > > > > > > > > > > >Since IMail was setup for RELAY FOR USERS ONLY, everything worked > > > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > > > That's correct. "Relay for users" means that you will let anyone > > relay > > > > > if > > > > > they have an account on your server, or are willing to use an E-mail > > > > > address on your server. > > > > > > > > > > >Even if we had setup IMail relay for HOSTS ONLY, the same thing > would > > > > > have > > > > > >occurred. > > > > > > > > > > Quite true. "Relay for hosts" means that anyone can relay mail > > through > > > > > your server if they have an account on your server, or are willing > to > > > > > use a > > > > > made-up E-mail address on your server. > > > > > > > > > > > We tried the NO RELAY option, but unfortunately, since the > > accept.txt > > > > > > > > > > > file does not work for NO > > > > > >RELAY, none of our emails from WhatsUP Gold could be sent, and some > > of > > > > > our > > > > > >third party applications like FrontPage etc... cannot use SMTP > > > > > >Authentication. > > > > > > > > > > With "No Mail Relay", you don't use accept.txt -- it means that > > everyone > > > > > > > > > > has to use SMTP AUTH. > > > > > > > > > > "Relay for Addresses" does what you are looking for (although you > > don't > > > > > use > > > > > the accept.txt file, you use the button next to "Relay for > Addresses" > > to > > > > > > > > > > list the "safe" IP addresses. > > > > > > > > > > >It would be nice if the ACCEPT.TXT file would worked for NO RELAY > but > > > > > it > > > > > >doesn't. > > > > > > > > > > No. "No mail relay" really means "Only relay for people using SMTP > > > > > AUTH". If IMail let certain users bypass it, then it would be > "Relay > > > > > for > > > > > Addresses" (which it already has). > > > > > > > > > > >I'm a little upset about this because it was pretty simple for this > > > > > person > > > > > >to do this ... > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that IMail doesn't make it clear that several of > their > > > > > anti-relay options don't prevent spammers from using your mail > server. > > > > > The > > > > > "Relay for Users" option isn't designed to stop spammers. > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > --- > > > > > Declude: Anti-virus, Anti-spam and Anti-hijacking solutions for > > > > > IMail. http://www.declude.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > to be removed from this list. > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > to be removed from this list. > > An Archive of this list is available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > to be removed from this list. > > An Archive of this list is available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. 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