>Does anyone know of a command line parameter or a way in which I can 
>setup a rule to Verify that an email being relayed from my server is an

>actual email address on my server?

"Relay" means to send an outgoing E-mail through your mail server (as 
opposed to E-mail that is destined to a local user).  So if it is sent
to 
an actual E-mail address on your server, it won't be relayed.

If you are looking to make sure that the "From" address matches an
address 
on your server, beware that anyone can enter any return address in their

client, so there is no "safety" there.

I understand that there is no "safety" That is why I am trying to add
this in addition to 
My Relay for Addresses option.  Using both safeguards will at least
force the spammer to identify themselves 
As members of my mail server.

>I am using the email for addresses option

Do you mean "Relay for addresses"?

Yes sorry.

>and I have all of the assigned IP address for my dial up users and my 
>local users.

OK, that is good.

>However someone is still able to send spam off of
>my server using one of these IP addresses ...

Yes, of course.  That's why you only should enter IP addresses that you 
have control over.  If you can't check to see who was using the IP
address 
at the time the spam was sent, you are running an open relay (although
it 
may be "partially closed").

I have over 2000 dial up customers who need access to mail services and
are dynamically assigned an 
Ip address.  The only other way I can see around it is to use the SMTP
authentication.  But I 
Don't want the pain of forcing all these dial-up users to change their
settings to authenticate.

>Also how can I track that email message and find out what the address 
>that
>this
>user is sending from?

All you have to do is look at the "Received:" header from the E-mail
that 
they sent out.  Or, look in the IMail logs.

>I have looked into the logs but I am having trouble determining which
>message is from the spammer and I do not know
>how to trace it back.  Please send suggestions.  Thanks

Well, I'm assuming that someone received the spam and complained about
it, 
or else you wouldn't know there is a problem.  You can tell from the 
headers of the spam who sent it (the IP address of the sender).

Or, take a look in the IMail logs to see when mail was sent to the
person 
who received the spam.

I have received one of the emails back as a forward but the message
header only points back to
My server and there is no mention of the original senders email address
just their bogus user
Name.  I can look in the mail log and find when the message was sent but
since the user used a bogus
Username I can't trace it back through my Radius logs or figure out its
IP address.  I can find the mail message
Qnumber but since the mail has been sent there is no corresponding
message in the spool directory.  

So how can I figure out the IP address now?

Thanks for your help.  

---Matt


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SPAMCOP:RE: [IMail Forum] SMTP Relay. What can we do
better.



>Does anyone know of a command line parameter or a way in which I can 
>setup a rule to Verify that an email being relayed from my server is an

>actual email address on my server?

"Relay" means to send an outgoing E-mail through your mail server (as 
opposed to E-mail that is destined to a local user).  So if it is sent
to 
an actual E-mail address on your server, it won't be relayed.

If you are looking to make sure that the "From" address matches an
address 
on your server, beware that anyone can enter any return address in their

client, so there is no "safety" there.

>I am using the email for addresses option

Do you mean "Relay for addresses"?

>and I have all of the assigned IP address for my dial up users and my 
>local users.

OK, that is good.

>However someone is still able to send spam off of
>my server using one of these IP addresses ...

Yes, of course.  That's why you only should enter IP addresses that you 
have control over.  If you can't check to see who was using the IP
address 
at the time the spam was sent, you are running an open relay (although
it 
may be "partially closed").

>Also how can I track that email message and find out what the address 
>that
>this
>user is sending from?

All you have to do is look at the "Received:" header from the E-mail
that 
they sent out.  Or, look in the IMail logs.

>I have looked into the logs but I am having trouble determining which
>message is from the spammer and I do not know
>how to trace it back.  Please send suggestions.  Thanks

Well, I'm assuming that someone received the spam and complained about
it, 
or else you wouldn't know there is a problem.  You can tell from the 
headers of the spam who sent it (the IP address of the sender).

Or, take a look in the IMail logs to see when mail was sent to the
person 
who received the spam.

                                                    -Scott
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