---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Rick Leske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Sat, 01 Jun 2002 01:02:07 -0500

>discuss wrote:
>
>> We are not an open relay 63.172.199.25 - we are very anti-spam 
and 
>> do not allow our users to even relay with smtp auth.  We are 
>> running and have been running imail 7.06 - no upgrades or 
changes 
>> recently, we have had the exact same setup for years.
>> 
>> We have never been an open relay.  Never.  Never.  Never ever.  
>> Did I say never?  Or even, never ever?
>> 
>> Yet both postfix and spambag have us listed. spambag seems 
>> impossible and uncaring to get off - postfix wants to know what 
>> emails have been blocked - well how in the hell am I supposed 
to 
>> know?
>> 
>> 
>> WE ARE NOT AN OPEN RELAY AND WE HAVE NEVER BEEN AN OPEN 
>> 
RELAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> !!!!!!
>> 
>> 
>> I am so f'ing pissed right now.  We work so hard for a quality, 
>> secure, spam free system only to have crap like this.  Users 
are 
>> pissed and thinking maybe I only give spam lip service.
>> 
>> So can anyone point out a - how this happened?  Don't tell me 
Ihad 
>> to be an open relay.  That just is not true and could not have 
>> happened.  I even went through the logs to see if some bizarre 
>> hack had happened against us - nothing out of the ordinary in 
the 
>> smtp logs.  Our web log W2020531.log is about 4 times the size 
it 
>> normally is.  Any ideas?
>> 
>> I am waiting for my new service agreement so I can't upgrade.  
Any 
>> ideas?  Any help?  I am losing my mind.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chet 
>
>
>Chet,
>
>I've checked 5 major services:
>
>25.199.172.63.relays.ordb.org -> 0.0.0.0
>25.199.172.63.relays.osirusoft.com -> 0.0.0.0
>25.199.172.63.orbs.dorkslayers.com -> 0.0.0.0
>25.199.172.63.list.dsbl.org -> 0.0.0.0
>25.199.172.63.relays.visi.com -> 0.0.0.0
>
>All of which show negative results (good thing) and a couple of 
these 
>database's are very, very strict.
>
>Apparently they've listed a lot of sprintlink - Spambag: 
>63.160.0.0-63.175.255.255
>
>I'd suspect that postfix has done the same for the same reason.
>
>Being that major isp's with the BIG $$$ really don't care about 
>spam/viruses it would be my advice to you to either 1) send them 
a 
>'friendly' email explaining your situation with the negative 
results 
>from above and ask them to de-list you. 2) Find a reputable 
internet 
>provider (good luck on that)..
>
>This is just another FINE example of why we need the anti-spam 
law 
>passed in the US.  At least it'll help curb some of the spam/porn.
>
>~Rick
>
>
>

Argh.  Thanks.  I can understand one named spambag - but postfix?  
The whole block? pretty loose rules.  We are leaving sprint in mid 
june and that will fix it - but I hate to ever be on any of these 
lists for any reason.   Some of these lists seem poorly thought 
out.

Thanks,

Chet 

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