> Sanford,

Please, call me Sandy. We go back a long way, don't we? :)

>> Terry reposted with a log snippet that suggested to you that MS was
>> actually  interrupting  the  DATA  stream  to  send  a  552, *then*
>> dropping the connection...

> Actually that was evidence from my test that showed MSN did properly
> respond  if  the received message caused the recipient mailbox to go
> over the mailbox limit...

I  agree  with your reading of the log, but I was approaching it using
Len's interpretation.

>  It  is  when  the  SMTP_DELIV_FAILED  message  occurs with no error
>  message that causes the retries...

Of course!

> ...and that I've come to associate with large messages.

With very good reason (see below).

> And it irritates me to no end for a 10 Mb message (or whatever size)
> to be retried over and over.

Yeah, that was a major point of my last post, no? Without the 552, the
retry is guaranteed.

> However,  the  first  forum  member  to  post  on  the thread, Julie
> Silverman,  responded  that  large  messages  are not the problem in
> cases she's researched.

I  don't buy it. Julie's suspicion of her Registry change, which in my
testing  has  no  effect  whatsoever on the SMTP transaction, does not
compute.

> So I've abandoned my hypothesis in favor another, but unknown to me,
> explanation.

I  think  your suspicion of oversize messages is very well-founded. As
you  can  read  in  my  last  post,  I  observed  both  Yahoo  and MSN
disconnecting  after  oversize messages without sending a 552. I could
send  an  undersize  message  both  before  and after the disconnected
sessions  from  the  same  account and IP, so I have real doubts as to
whether  any  other  characteristics are taken into account other than
size   (note   the   attachments   had  a  variety  of  non-executable
extensions).

-Sandy


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