Thanx Len for your help..
BUT..
> and force everybody to authenticate.
How to force them to authenticate???
I mean which option under SMTP Security....

Regards,,
Magdy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: OSRELAY:Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP Problem (1)!


>
> >- Since first time we installed Imail we run "Relay mail for addresses"
>
> ok
>
> >- I did not say that I want to prevent anyone from send to my local
users...
> >But my case is: any can dail to my system using username and password OR
> >using our free internet feature, then open his outlook express, create a
> >non-exist Email account then configure it to use out SMTP to send emails
>
> only if he is on your relay for addresses, where you trust anybody to do
> anything as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >  So
> >he will be able to use My mail server without real mail account....
>
> aka "do anything" as long as on one of your "relay for addresses".  this
is
> why you should restrict "relay for addresses" to almost nothing, and force
> everybody to authenticate. this way you have log trace of their ip and
> authentication and can easily trace any abuse.
>
> >  This is
> >the case.. Why Imail server cannot prevent non-existing username from
using
> >it for sending outgoing mails to anyone if that usename does not exist in
> >Imail DB???
>
> simply because it doesn't.  This very point came up a couple of weeks ago,
> where someone wanted to be able to force all users to send as
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], that is, prevent forgery of the envelope sender.
>
> >meaning: Imail should check if that sender already exist in its DB , then
it
> >will allow him to send emails.
> >Else: prevent the sending process...
> >
> >I hope that will explain what I am asking for
>
> it's more clear now, finally, and the answer is that any user sending from
> your "relay for addresses" or after authentication, can send as any
> envelope sender.   no way to stop it.
>
> The best you can do is force every body to authenticate by restricting
your
> "relay for addresses" to
>
> An add-on solution is to install IMGate which can "check_sender_access"
for
> your ip's and force any mail sending from your ip's to be in
"your_domains"
> and even in "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
>
> oops, IMGate is yet again an accidental solution looking for unforeseen
> problems.   :))
>
> IMGate can also reduce forgeries of your domains (ie, the opposite
problem:
> people sending as @yourdomains when they are not!) by spammers sending to
> IMGate as MX for all your domains.
>
> Len
>
>
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