John,

Another thing is, if they provided and maintain the router, they don't
want you touching it, for any reason.  But, they should have 24hr NOC
and techs available, the business hours thing is a weird limitation,
what if the circuit goes down at 2am? Will they say you need to wait for
the next business day to get it fixed? If so, find a new provider,
Savvis is good, and Russ suggested AT&T or Sprint.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Moving ISP Router


At 12:18 PM 6/20/2003, John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote:
>Question for you ISPs out there.
>
>I am moving my NOC.
>
>At the old location, I am using a Integrated T-1 from A********e via a
>circuit from PacBell. (Not my choice.)
>
>The ISP has been waiting for PacBell to install the new circuit (line)
at
>the new building before they can schedule to come out and move the
router.
>They have stated that I can not move the router. But they will only do
this
>during normal business hours.
>
>PacBell has just come out to install the new circuit in the new
building.
>
>Shouldn't I just be able to bring the new circuit from the BP to the
jack in
>the new server room, then plug in the router and it will be up and
running
>on the new circuit?
>
>In other words, won't the ISP router in my server room find the central
ISP
>router and open the circuit?


It kinda depends on the circuit type.  It's possible that the
encapsulation 
is differant, and therefore, the config on the router would need to be 
changed.  Also, a lot of times, the new circuit will use new Point to
Point 
IP's on the serial interfaces.  Which would also be a config change.

I'm suprised that they'll only do this during business hours.  We have 
circuits with both Sprint and ATT, and anytime something at all happens,

they are willing to do it when ever I want to!!  Maybe a chit-chat with
a 
manager will help??

-Russ 


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