Hey that's it! That's what I was missing. I checked the source on this one
pesky, Spam piece with "Viagra" in it and the source did indeed have an
"<!-- impolite -->" in between the words. I'm not familiar with that tag,
but I'm I get that it's breaking the text up.

I'm slow on 8.01 too I guess, had no idea there was an 8.01. I can't believe
there is an upgrade already. Man am I behind on this. I'll run the upgrade
and check out this new feature you're talking about.

Thanks a bunch, Josh.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Antispam features not working very well.


A simple copy/paste isn't enough. Look at the source of the email. In
Outlook Express for instance you can go to File -> Properties and then there
is a button to see the source of the email. Many spammers send HTML code
like

S<!a>p<!a>a<!a>m<!a>

Now if you saw the email as HTML you would only see the word as "Spam" and
it would copy and paste as such. Only by looking in the source of the email
would you see the comments. In Imail 8.01 they added something nice that
would catch these things. You can pick various characteristics of HTML mail
and say if it matches x variables then delete it or add an x-header or email
it to somewhere. I picked the invalid tags, comments, and weird URLs  I
believe and said if all 3 exist then delete it.

-Josh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Antispam features not working very well.


> I've been running 8.0 with Antispam for about a month now and I have to
say
> that I'm not terribly impressed. We are getting quite a bit of Spam
blocked
> by the software, but a whole lot is getting through as well and plenty
that
> SHOULD be stopped. A great example is the highly used Spam word "Viagra".
> Now this came setup in the Phrase Filtering by default, but yet I'm
getting
> tons of emails with "Viagra" plain as day in my inbox. Now before you ask,
> yes it's just "Viagra", it's not an image, it doesn't show any signs of
> having hidden text in between the letters, and I can copy the word from
the
> email and it pastes exactly as it looks in the email into other documents.
> It's just plain old "Viagra", nothing tricky about it. I've got quite a
few
> variations of it being blocked in Phrase Filtering as well. I've stopped
and
> started SMTP and the Queue Managers services dozens of times as well. I've
> checked all my other rules and I don't know how Viagra emails could be
> getting around Phrase filtering which should forward all emails to my Spam
> account, but instead they are arriving in user's inboxes.


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