Anyone knows why IPSwitch is giving 5 relay options when only 2 of them are "secure" and the 3 other shouldn't be used????
Vincent -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel J Stanaitis Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Relay Options It's MBS. Message Board Syndrome. Kind of like LSS (Lead Singer Syndrome), minus the talent. Doesn't matter what board, doesn't matter what context. There are always people who'll be offended by questions that have been repeatedly asked, and expend twice the effort it takes to say 'Do a search' or 'RTFM' to simply berate them and prove how big the platters in their new 7200RPM drive are. Anonymity and the ability to let off your frustration by ripping a stranger halfway across the globe can be quite intoxicating. I don't have a big deal with it. Most times I get a kick out of how wound up some people get by otherwise insignificant details. Sure, I normally Google the heck out of something before asking, but if I feel it's quicker just to pop on and ask 'How's this work?' in the midst of searching for it...that's everyone else's problem if it's been asked before, not mine. I'll still get the answer somewhere and they'll get to provide fodder for weeks of discussion on message board manners. So beyond that, I actually do have a question valid to the mailing list... What exactly are the only acceptable relay options for a server so I don't end up on ORDB? Thanks, Sam -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Maggard Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Relay Options Maybe these basic things ought to be in the 'Welcome' email when you join, although considering how many email I see in HTML, with 'read-reciepts', confidetiality footers, etc. I doubt it would do much good. Should people reply in a polite way? Yes. But people ought to also try to find the solutions to problems themselves before using someone elses time. People aren't perfect, and thus we ought to be a little more tolerant of basic questions as well as peoples frustrated reactions to these question. Everyone has room for improvement. We should take into account that the person asking the question may have had the resposibility thrust upon them, and may be facing the possibilty of losing their job, and thus are doing this in 'panic'. We should also take into account that if we get a 'rude' response to a question the person responding prolly is atleast taking time and answering your question even if they do it rude, and when they are responding to common questions that the answer is out there for, they can't spend it answering a question that there may not be an answer anywhere else for. If you have ever asked a 'dumb' question(and who hasn't), you really not in a position to criticize others for doing the same. If you have ever answered someone's question rudely(and who hasn't) for any reason, you shouldn't take offense to someone else doing so. Lets all try to be a little more tolerant of others faults, like we would like others to tolerate ours. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Relay Options But Jeffery, questions from end users will always be there, and yes that is part of our job. However, when another admin is asking other admins for information that is readily available, what that person is saying is "My time is more valuable than yours and I do not have the time to look for that answer so I will ask you and stop you from what you are doing to answer my question which has already been answered a thousand times already." John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffery Rehm Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Relay Options Answering the same question over and over goes with the territory. If I was unwilling to answer the same questions a million times I wouldn't have a job... or kids. ----- Original Message ----- From: paul <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 17:16 Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Relay Options >>There are some very friendly people here sharing their knowledge, and others who think who they are by responding so rudely to those of us that DON'T READ THIS ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING OUR JOBS. Not to be rude, but if this IS your job, or part of it, being an imail admin, then you should take the time. I have almost every message I've gotten on this list since I signed up last year, have I read them all? No, but if I have a question, I can look through those first to see if it's been asked before. >>Thank you to all those friendly responses, which like to share their knowledge freely in environments like this. One day we will all be as good as those who think who they are, and maybe friendlier.. Remembering where we came from once. Just remember, those that post here have jobs too, and they lend their time to help. Some get testy when they answer the same question for the upteenth time. 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