Before a 100 post fight breaks out, can we get back to the topic at hand,
and not preferences.. Please?

Thanks! 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] ASSP

John, we  have discussed this before and apparently we need to yet again.

Since you are not *EMAIL OVERLOAD* people can apply policies any way they
see fit.  What you think people should "never do" are in fact great policies
on other networks.  At our offices, blacklists like Spam Cop have yielded me
three false positives in the past 5 months.  Let's calcualte that.......

Roughly 1500 emails per day per office = 7500 emails per day
5 months  times (lets say 30 days = 150 days

7500 * 150 = 1,250,000 total e-mails
Total Fales Positives = 3

3/1,250,000 = .0000024 = PRETTY DAMN GOOD!


If  I were running an ISP, sure my approach may be different, but I'm not.
For offices that strictly prohibit anything but work related mail blocking
on a relaible list like SpamCop works great!  Please rememeber the way you
run your e-mail servers isn't the way we shoudl all run ours.

Thanks

Travis


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John 
> Tolmachoff
> (Lists)
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] ASSP
>
>
> > I would rather just return a 5XX reject message to someone that is 
> > on SpamCop. Let their mail admin deal with their blacklisted
> server problems.
> > Better them than me. I guess that all depends upon your religion 
> > though, and whether you lean more towards Len or Scott's viewpoint 
> > of what should be blocked. I see merits in both arguments, but on 
> > the most
> reliable DNSRBLs
> > I
> > use, I would much rather block than waste all that processing on 
> > filtering.
>
> Halt. Cease. Flag on play.
>
> You should never ever take such an action based on a single DNS based 
> black list. Haven't you heard of false positives and incorrect 
> listings? Did you know that for about a year, (do not know about 
> recently,) that SpamCop was listing Dunn & Bradstreet off and on? 
> Turned out it was people who were having actions taken against that 
> reported LEGIT e-mail to SpamCop as spam and got it listed.
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
>
>
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