I balked at the pricing for other spam/virus plugins and even ignored MXGuard primarily because I didn't want the responsibility of having to scan emails for clients. That responsibility belongs with the end user IMHO. I'm sure Antivirus companies will agree from the profit side of the equation because if every mail service did this then there would be little need for end-users to buy it.
I will tell that I just bought MXGuard and had it and the virus scanner running in about 10 minutes that included 2 questions to David. To all -- MXGuard is priced right and works extremely well. How can you go wrong for $100??? Bill -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gregg Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] JPEG virus now in the wild > > > >mxGuard for IMail scans *all* file types by design. > > > > > > Really? That's a lot of extra CPU time. :) > > > >CPU time is cheap. > > It is? Ask that to people who have to upgrade their server because of > the CPU time involved in AV scanning. :) Virus scanning is usually > the most CPU intensive task on the server by far. If you are dealing > with less than > 50,000-100,000 E-mails/day, it's probably not going to be an issue. > But for people dealing with 100,000+ E-mails/day (or who have old > servers), it becomes an issue. Once the AV is launched, throwing some additional JPGs, TXT, etc... at the scanner does not worry me. Build what you want, use it hwo you wish. > > >It's better safer than sorry and it beats having to > >purchase a service agreement to get the latest fix when a virus is delivered > >in a formerly 'excluded' filetype :) > > <G> Even people who purchased Declude Virus years ago and aren't > covered by a Service Agreement don't have to worry. While they won't > have the protection of Declude Virus detecting these exploits, just so > long as their > AV product can detect them, they will get blocked. Declude Virus lets > you choose if you want certain extensions excluded. For an additional, hefty fee :) > > > > You might want to urge your customers to upgrade their AV scanner > > > .exe > > > >This goes without mention. > > That's a problem -- it MUST BE MENTIONED, EVERYWHERE. This is a very, very > serious issue. This could be much bigger than Netsky/Bagle back in > March. > > Remember, there is a HUGE difference between upgrading the AV > *program* and > updating the AV *virus definitions*. Normally, the virus definitions > are upgraded automatically, but the .exe file isn't. On rare > occasions, the .exe file *must* be upgraded for some reason -- this is > one of them. Still goes without saying. It's not my place to tell admins to apply windows service pack, hotfixes, av updates, etc... An admin a big boy/girl, certainly capable of making decisions. We do make some recommendation but do not approach any of them from a 'this is gospel' position. > > > > file, as that is required by many AV programs in order to detect > > > the GDIPlus.dll exploit (unless you have built-in protection for > > > it, like Declude Virus does). > > > >Detecting viruses is the job of the virus scanner - they seem to do > >an excellent job at it. > > I agree. But unless you take the steps to upgrade the AV scanner, it > almost certainly isn't going to detect these exploits. Yes - one would assume that is how responsible administrators think. > > >btw - your site displays some AV test results for mxGuard that are > >not accurate. You should remove or correct them immediately. > > I believe those results are accurate, although I'll admit it isn't as clear > as it should be (it is reporting the best results that were reported > for any given scanner). FWIW, since only one person reported for > mxGuard, the results for mxGuard are both accurate and not unclear > (the only issues I can see would be if their setup was not configured > properly, or if changes have been made since the information was > gathered). Oh, ok. Just reporting what was reported. Right. No need to verify. Sounds like the CBS document issue. If inaccurate/misleading info is acceptable to your company - so be it. > > >While you do have a disclaimer that these are not 'your' results, but those > >gleaned from a mailing list, they are innacurate and irresponsible to post. > >One should verify - especially when the data is used for marketing purposes. > > Unfortunately, marketing people see the world differently than us tech > guys. Believe it or not, that information is actually more in the > favor of > the competitors than it originally was (I pointed out a definite > mistake with the original version). Though still incorrect, I should feel better about it? > > Please note that the information is, as you pointed out, based on the > results from third parties. The "Average missed per program" for > Declude Virus would be better if someone hadn't posted results from a misconfigured > version of Declude Virus. So if we were to change your results to > what they should be, we would need to change ours, too. C'mon Scott. Don't try to hide behind that statement. You are the first person to jump on any positive spin you can for declude... > > -Scott > --- > Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail > mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection > and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. > Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
