I agree, but I think the damage has been done.  My trust in this company has
folded.  I would have never thought twice about something Ipswitch has done
or asked me to do.  When they ask me to renew, I do.  When I am asked to try
new solutions to their bugs, I do.  When I am told to hold on, a fix will be
out, I do.  IN fact, I go one step further and tell my colleagues what a
great product this is and I have rolled it out for them on a few occasions.
And then yesterday, this.  I still cannot believe this is really happening.
Maybe this is just one big bad dream.

In all seriousness....I am going to start a Yahoo Group/List and I will post
bake here with the info.  I don't want to lose contact with this community.

Travis

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dev
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(

I will wager that the entire management team and
marketing department are reading every one of these
posts in horror.

They realize they have screwed up BADLY. Marketing got
enamored with a couple of high end clients, and
completely lost site of the core business.

I would love to be a fly on the wall of that
hastily-called meeting today where the marketing guys
are going to be boiled in oil. The marketing flaks may
have just cost them the continued viability of
Ipswitch.

Dev

Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 11:46:31 AM, you wrote:

CT> I wonder how many people there are out there
CT> that are going to look at
CT> moving from IMail to some other product.

CT> I just spoke with a nice lady in the Sales
CT> Department and she said this
CT> decision was based on Market Research done by
CT> the Marketing Department.
CT> Maybe IPSwitch needs to start directing their
CT> market research to the people
CT> that actually use their product.

CT> Just my $0.02 ...

CT> Chris

CT> -----Original Message-----
CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> On Behalf Of Langston, Cale
CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:41 PM
CT> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(

CT> Well just broke the news to my boss. He asked
CT> me to start looking for a
CT> replacement for IMail and WSFTP.

CT> -----Original Message-----
CT> From: Troy D. Hilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:29 PM
CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(

CT> I second the servers Alive product. It's works
CT> very well. And Dirk is great
CT> to work with for support. I've used their
CT> product for almost 5 years. Works
CT> very well.


CT> Troy D. Hilton
CT> SofWerks LLC.
CT> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CT> -----Original Message-----
CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> On Behalf Of Jacques Brouwers
CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:06 PM
CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(

CT> I use servers alive. It is free for up to 10
CT> servers and loaded with
CT> features!

CT> http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/

CT> Jacques

CT> -----Original Message-----
CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> Behalf Of Elliott Bujan
CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:47 AM
CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(


CT> Our contract will not be up until next april so as to Whatsup.
CT> there are other solutions to whatsup, IPSwitch
CT> is coming with whatsup pro
CT> which I can tell you is nice but coming from a
CT> company with unexpected
CT> changes and lack of customer awareness, I will be looking elsewhere
CT> (convincing my boss is the easy part)

CT> Nagios is opensource, looks great and strong.  Being a cisco shop,
CT> ciscoworks is another solution, what about somix and their webnm?

CT> Thank you,

CT> Elliott

CT> ===============================
CT> Elliott Bujan
CT> Network/Web Administrator
CT> Initial Tropical Plants - USA
CT> Voice:(847) 634 4250 ext. 99281
CT> Fax:  (847) 634 6820
CT> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> http://www.initialplants.com

CT> -----Original Message-----
CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Taylor
CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:33 PM
CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(


CT> This really bothers me, why wasn't I told this
CT> a month or so ago when we
CT> renewed our contracts. I hate to say it but I
CT> will also be looking for a
CT> product. Someone please start a new group so
CT> that we don't lose contact I
CT> actually like having so much knowledge at my
CT> finger tips. Regardless of what
CT> product we use it wont hurt to have the help
CT> at hand. I will also be looking
CT> for a replacement for whats-up any suggestions
CT> will be good. By the way
CT> thanks IPSWITCH for that special pricing you
CT> give your educational customers
CT> with the new product.

CT> Thanks again,
CT> Allen Taylor
CT> Walker County Board of Education


CT> -----Original Message-----
CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oblio
CT> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:28 PM
CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(

CT> So, does anyone have a way to retrieve user
CT> passwords for a migration?





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