however, you have to admit at least IPSwitch hasn't killed the discussion yet...Gordano (NTMail) banned all discussion about it shortly after they pulled nearly the same stunt
Travis Rabe wrote:
OK...For those of you in fear of losing touch with this online community and to share other experiences with replacement software, please feel free to join here.
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As I said, maybe this is just a bad dream and we can all wake up tomorrow and it will be all over.
Travis
I agree, but I think the damage has been done. My trust in this company has folded. I would have never thought twice about something Ipswitch has done or asked me to do. When they ask me to renew, I do. When I am asked to try new solutions to their bugs, I do. When I am told to hold on, a fix will be out, I do. IN fact, I go one step further and tell my colleagues what a great product this is and I have rolled it out for them on a few occasions. And then yesterday, this. I still cannot believe this is really happening. Maybe this is just one big bad dream.
In all seriousness....I am going to start a Yahoo Group/List and I will post bake here with the info. I don't want to lose contact with this community.
Travis
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dev Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
I will wager that the entire management team and marketing department are reading every one of these posts in horror.
They realize they have screwed up BADLY. Marketing got enamored with a couple of high end clients, and completely lost site of the core business.
I would love to be a fly on the wall of that hastily-called meeting today where the marketing guys are going to be boiled in oil. The marketing flaks may have just cost them the continued viability of Ipswitch.
Dev
Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 11:46:31 AM, you wrote:
CT> I wonder how many people there are out there CT> that are going to look at CT> moving from IMail to some other product.
CT> I just spoke with a nice lady in the Sales CT> Department and she said this CT> decision was based on Market Research done by CT> the Marketing Department. CT> Maybe IPSwitch needs to start directing their CT> market research to the people CT> that actually use their product.
CT> Just my $0.02 ...
CT> Chris
CT> -----Original Message----- CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> On Behalf Of Langston, Cale CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:41 PM CT> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
CT> Well just broke the news to my boss. He asked CT> me to start looking for a CT> replacement for IMail and WSFTP.
CT> -----Original Message----- CT> From: Troy D. Hilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:29 PM CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
CT> I second the servers Alive product. It's works CT> very well. And Dirk is great CT> to work with for support. I've used their CT> product for almost 5 years. Works CT> very well.
CT> Troy D. Hilton CT> SofWerks LLC. CT> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT> -----Original Message----- CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> On Behalf Of Jacques Brouwers CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:06 PM CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
CT> I use servers alive. It is free for up to 10 CT> servers and loaded with CT> features!
CT> http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/
CT> Jacques
CT> -----Original Message----- CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> Behalf Of Elliott Bujan CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:47 AM CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
CT> Our contract will not be up until next april so as to Whatsup. CT> there are other solutions to whatsup, IPSwitch CT> is coming with whatsup pro CT> which I can tell you is nice but coming from a CT> company with unexpected CT> changes and lack of customer awareness, I will be looking elsewhere CT> (convincing my boss is the easy part)
CT> Nagios is opensource, looks great and strong. Being a cisco shop, CT> ciscoworks is another solution, what about somix and their webnm?
CT> Thank you,
CT> Elliott
CT> =============================== CT> Elliott Bujan CT> Network/Web Administrator CT> Initial Tropical Plants - USA CT> Voice:(847) 634 4250 ext. 99281 CT> Fax: (847) 634 6820 CT> [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> http://www.initialplants.com
CT> -----Original Message----- CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Taylor CT> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:33 PM CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
CT> This really bothers me, why wasn't I told this CT> a month or so ago when we CT> renewed our contracts. I hate to say it but I CT> will also be looking for a CT> product. Someone please start a new group so CT> that we don't lose contact I CT> actually like having so much knowledge at my CT> finger tips. Regardless of what CT> product we use it wont hurt to have the help CT> at hand. I will also be looking CT> for a replacement for whats-up any suggestions CT> will be good. By the way CT> thanks IPSWITCH for that special pricing you CT> give your educational customers CT> with the new product.
CT> Thanks again, CT> Allen Taylor CT> Walker County Board of Education
CT> -----Original Message----- CT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oblio CT> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:28 PM CT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CT> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
CT> So, does anyone have a way to retrieve user CT> passwords for a migration?
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