It supports spamming as defined by every source that I know of, and this coming from a mail server company.  Go figure...

I was also taken back by the attitude that they were justified in doing this because it was listed in their privacy policy.  Anyone hiding behind a privacy policy's language and "default unconfirmed opt-in" as justification for giving third-parties one's information is completely disrespecting their customers.

Just out of curiosity, if you had a "partner" that you thought a customer of your's might be remotely interested in speaking with (but most likely not), would you ask your customer for permission to share that information or would you just start passing it around without regard to the possibility of this angering your customer?

As far as privacy policies go, I put together a special one just for this list:

    http://www.mailpure.com/policy.html

I hope everyone enjoys it :)

Matt



Allen Armstrong wrote:
Hi,

I just thought I would add something here:  

Ipswitch ever since we purchased our first Imail server has always referred
us to their gold partner when we downloaded their evaluation products.  They
have done this for at least two years.

Have worked for a sales company in the past it all depends on your marketing
structure.  If you want to hire the sales people and actively call everyone
all over the world that downloads eval or do you want to build products and
focusing on customer support.  You could cut out the middle guy out and
forget about the resellers.  I am just thinking this Ipswitches marketing
strategy that's all.  

My two sents. :)


Allen Armstrong


  
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: December 29, 2004 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] FW: Ipswitch ICS evaluation

Only a scumbag company would distribute your information to other
companies for marketing purposes as a result of a trial download of a
$6,000 piece of software.  For some reason the folks at Ipswitch feel
compelled to treat their customers as just simply dollar signs, and it
is certainly causing them grief, though the marketing idiots that are
making these choices are obviously oblivious.  Needless to say, this
does not surprise me.  They should have fired these people back when the
whole ICS thing exploded in their faces.  Unfortunately they are now
pumping their customer base for support contracts at a 40% increase in
price for a piece of software that they refuse to sell to the general
public anymore, and they will even nickel and dime their customers by
selling their information to third-parties.

Run as fast as you can from the greed of corporate America that has
infected this once proud company.

Matt



Bill wrote:

    
If you click the privacy policy at the bottom of the download page, it
clearly states:

WHAT INFORMATION DOES IPSWITCH.COM COLLECT AND HOW IS IT USED?
        
Sorry, Jill.  I don't think stuffing this down in a privacy policy is
sufficient, especially for a company marketing communication
solutions. Give users the ability to opt-out before your automatic
opt-in triggers.  I would expect to be contacted by Ipswitch, but not
by third-party resellers, unless I asked for that.

Bill

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