At 02:48 PM 1/1/2005, you wrote:
It was $2,880 (MSRP $3,997)including lift-gate freight from Norwall PowerSystems
in AZ. Model 4390, 13KW Natural Gas.
You'll need to buy a battery for it and make sure you have a 11-14" WC Natural Gas regulator.
Check eBay, too.
Friday, December 31, 2004, 5:39:02 PM, Matrosity Tech Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MTS> how much was that little puppy?
MTS> Don Brown wrote:
>>We've got the largest 'air cooled' Generac and run natural gas. We
>>only use about 40A of the 100A capacity to power all of our network,
>>air, lights and other essential items. It's been in service about 2
>>yrs and it's trouble free.
>>
>>We found a place in Arizona on the Internet (don't remember the name)
>>with a good price, including lift-gate shipping.
>>
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>>Friday, December 31, 2004, 11:07:48 AM, Dan Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>DB> Aw shucks, why not now!
>>DB>
>>DB> Generac, free shipping, free AUTOMATIC transfer switch, free
>>DB> pad, under $3K, 15KW. Add $500 for a 250-gallon propane tank and
>>DB> "Surf til you drop!".
>>DB>
>>DB> Dan
>>DB>
>>DB> I run 6 servers on a $120 Belkin 1200 va. The monitor
>>DB> software says it's 56% loaded, and the battery shows about 65%
>>DB> after the generator kicks on.
>>
>>DB> -----Original Message-----
>>DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>DB> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris
>>DB> Ulrich
>>DB> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 10:24 AM
>>DB> To: [email protected]
>>DB> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: KVM over IP & RemoteReboot
>>
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>>DB> Hi Matt. Thanks - I think you're right on target for future growth.
>>
>>DB> Since we're in control of all machines and these are not
>>DB> colo's, the multiple user access isn't even a necessity - but
>>DB> great to know, and a good item at $139 MSRP
>>
>>DB> What we're likely to do is use some older 8 port
>>DB> MasterSwitches, plug them into the existing UPS (which should
>>DB> be enough for 4 of these machines) and just use
>>DB> four of the ports, leaving the other four empty. We can pick these up very cheap on eBay.
>>
>>DB> On the new machines - we're going to put 12 per "metro
>>DB> rack", plus KVM, local (to the rack) 10/100 switch, keyboard and
>>DB> monitor -
>>DB> your approach sounds best - one larger UPS with an extra
>>DB> attached battery (around $1k MSRP) plus the $139 MasterSwitch
>>
>>DB> Thanks for all the advice. Next week... generators... ; )
>>
>>DB> Hope everyone has a happy & healthy New Year. I know I'll
>>DB> be home, monitoring the network, just in case that pesky Y2K
>>DB> bug shows up late....
>>
>>DB> Chris
>>
>>
>>DB> At 01:18 AM 12/31/2004, you wrote:
>>
>>DB> I'm thinking that maybe something got lost in the
>>DB> shuffle here when APC was first discussed. The older model
>>DB> MasterSwitch did not allow for individual logins to control
>>DB> individual ports, however, the newer versions do, and this is
>>DB> a lot less expensive than buying individual devices for each
>>DB> outlet.
>>
>>DB> For each rack (set of servers), get a single UPS that
>>DB> can handle the wattage of the combined servers for the
>>DB> necessary period of time, and add a MasterSwitch or other PDU
>>DB> from APC that allows for separate logins for separate ports, and
>>DB> you have yourself a complete solution without a wiring mess
>>DB> or excessive equipment to support. Just read the manuals
>>DB> associated with the PDU's listed on APC's site:
>>
>>DB> http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=70
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>>DB> Note from the MasterSwitch product brochure:
>>
>>
>>DB> Individual Outlet Control
>>
>>DB> MasterSwitch products provide power solutions for co-locators (COLOs) and
>>
>>DB> Internet Service Providers (ISPs). COLOs and ISPs can take control of their
>>
>>DB> businesses by giving control back to their customers. This is done by administrators
>>
>>DB> assigning individual or multiple outlet control to user accounts.
>>
>>DB> Customers then have the ability to control their equipments power without onsite
>>
>>DB> intervention.
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>>DB> The prices listed on their site are the MSRP's, and new
>>DB> from Shopper.com you will generally do better than 20% off
>>DB> that price. Find something suitable and used on eBay and get +50%
>>DB> off. The following 16-port device has an MSRP of $139 and allows
>>DB> for multiple users:
>>
>>DB>
>>DB>
>>http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP9227
>>
>>DB> A used (eBay) UPS that doesn't need special wiring and
>>DB> can handle the load (~2,000 VA) with new batteries and a new
>>DB> 16 port MasterSwitch of this type should run somewhere around
>>DB> $500...shipped.
>>
>>DB> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>DB> P. Guethlein wrote:
>>
>>DB> At 01:06 PM 12/30/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>>DB> Wouldn't something like this work for you.
>>
>>DB> http://www.dataprobe.com/power/iboot.html
>>
>>DB> Tim
>>
>>DB> Here's one that is less expensive.
>>
>>DB> http://www.RemotePowerSwitch.com
>>
>>DB> -Pete
>>
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