I got mine from Norwall too! Small world. I don't have NG here, so I got the 15Kw, Propane version. Same deal (+/- $100).
Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:48 PM To: Matrosity Tech Support Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: KVM over IP & RemoteReboot It was $2,880 (MSRP $3,997)including lift-gate freight from Norwall PowerSystems in AZ. Model 4390, 13KW Natural Gas. You'll need to buy a battery for it and make sure you have a 11-14" WC Natural Gas regulator. Check eBay, too. Friday, December 31, 2004, 5:39:02 PM, Matrosity Tech Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MTS> how much was that little puppy? MTS> Don Brown wrote: >>We've got the largest 'air cooled' Generac and run natural gas. We >>only use about 40A of the 100A capacity to power all of our network, >>air, lights and other essential items. It's been in service about 2 >>yrs and it's trouble free. >> >>We found a place in Arizona on the Internet (don't remember the name) >>with a good price, including lift-gate shipping. >> >> >>Friday, December 31, 2004, 11:07:48 AM, Dan Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>DB> Aw shucks, why not now! >>DB> >>DB> Generac, free shipping, free AUTOMATIC transfer switch, free >>DB> pad, under $3K, 15KW. Add $500 for a 250-gallon propane tank and >>DB> "Surf til you drop!". >>DB> >>DB> Dan >>DB> >>DB> I run 6 servers on a $120 Belkin 1200 va. The monitor >>DB> software says it's 56% loaded, and the battery shows about 65% >>DB> after the generator kicks on. >> >>DB> -----Original Message----- >>DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>DB> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris >>DB> Ulrich >>DB> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 10:24 AM >>DB> To: [email protected] >>DB> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: KVM over IP & RemoteReboot >> >> >>DB> Hi Matt. Thanks - I think you're right on target for future growth. >> >>DB> Since we're in control of all machines and these are not >>DB> colo's, the multiple user access isn't even a necessity - but >>DB> great to know, and a good item at $139 MSRP >> >>DB> What we're likely to do is use some older 8 port >>DB> MasterSwitches, plug them into the existing UPS (which should >>DB> be enough for 4 of these machines) and just use >>DB> four of the ports, leaving the other four empty. We can pick these up very cheap on eBay. >> >>DB> On the new machines - we're going to put 12 per "metro >>DB> rack", plus KVM, local (to the rack) 10/100 switch, keyboard and >>DB> monitor - >>DB> your approach sounds best - one larger UPS with an extra >>DB> attached battery (around $1k MSRP) plus the $139 MasterSwitch >> >>DB> Thanks for all the advice. Next week... generators... ; ) >> >>DB> Hope everyone has a happy & healthy New Year. I know I'll >>DB> be home, monitoring the network, just in case that pesky Y2K >>DB> bug shows up late.... >> >>DB> Chris >> >> >>DB> At 01:18 AM 12/31/2004, you wrote: >> >>DB> I'm thinking that maybe something got lost in the >>DB> shuffle here when APC was first discussed. The older model >>DB> MasterSwitch did not allow for individual logins to control >>DB> individual ports, however, the newer versions do, and this is >>DB> a lot less expensive than buying individual devices for each >>DB> outlet. >> >>DB> For each rack (set of servers), get a single UPS that >>DB> can handle the wattage of the combined servers for the >>DB> necessary period of time, and add a MasterSwitch or other PDU >>DB> from APC that allows for separate logins for separate ports, and >>DB> you have yourself a complete solution without a wiring mess >>DB> or excessive equipment to support. Just read the manuals >>DB> associated with the PDU's listed on APC's site: >> >>DB> http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=70 >> >>DB> Note from the MasterSwitch product brochure: >> >> >>DB> Individual Outlet Control >> >>DB> MasterSwitch products provide power solutions for co-locators (COLOs) and >> >>DB> Internet Service Providers (ISPs). COLOs and ISPs can take control of their >> >>DB> businesses by giving control back to their customers. This is done by administrators >> >>DB> assigning individual or multiple outlet control to user accounts. >> >>DB> Customers then have the ability to control their equipments power without onsite >> >>DB> intervention. >> >> >> >>DB> The prices listed on their site are the MSRP's, and new >>DB> from Shopper.com you will generally do better than 20% off >>DB> that price. Find something suitable and used on eBay and get +50% >>DB> off. The following 16-port device has an MSRP of $139 and allows >>DB> for multiple users: >> >>DB> >>DB> >>http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP9227 >> >>DB> A used (eBay) UPS that doesn't need special wiring and >>DB> can handle the load (~2,000 VA) with new batteries and a new >>DB> 16 port MasterSwitch of this type should run somewhere around >>DB> $500...shipped. >> >>DB> Matt >> >> >> >>DB> P. Guethlein wrote: >> >>DB> At 01:06 PM 12/30/2004 -0600, you wrote: >> >>DB> Wouldn't something like this work for you. >> >>DB> http://www.dataprobe.com/power/iboot.html >> >>DB> Tim >> >>DB> Here's one that is less expensive. >> >>DB> http://www.RemotePowerSwitch.com >> >>DB> -Pete >> >> >> >>DB> To Unsubscribe: >>DB> http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>DB> List Archive: >>DB> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>DB> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>---- >>Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net >>(972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049 >>---- >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>List Archive: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >> >> >> >> MTS> To Unsubscribe: MTS> http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html MTS> List Archive: MTS> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ MTS> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ ---- Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. 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