However, while I agree with this opinion (keep the customers happy), Len
has a point.  If everyone blocked known ADSL ranges then the ADSL ISPs
would be forced to clean up their own mess in order to keep THEIR
customers happy, which would conceivably lower the overall rate of spam
coming into our mx's.

But in the real world, I'm too small an operation to do this.  If my
customers get pissed off and quit my service I get hurt a lot more than
a telco does when they lose a customer.  So I have to appease my own
clients while the telco can have an "acceptable loss" rate.

Dan Horne


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] reverse DNS

At 07:35 AM 3/25/2005, you wrote:
> > You can not change the way others choose to run their business, but 
> > you may have to adapt the way you look at things to allow your 
> > customers to be happy with your service.
>
>I think this is a statement that this whole argument surrounds.
>
>Professionally and morally, I have no right to dictate the way some one

>does something. All I can do is clearly state this is the way I do 
>things. Others (co-workers, clients, competitors, family, friends, 
>etc.) can either accept or reject my way. I can then react to their 
>reactions. (If all/many reject my way, I can change it.)
>
>There are 2 groups of people posting on this thread: Those that want to

>dictate what others do; Those that accept and/or adapt to what others
do.

Good point John.  Our (my) philosophy is simple.  I want to keep my
customers complaints to a minimum.  This reduces the support load and
keeps our clients happy.  It's a win/win situation.  We give "weight" to
RDNS but don't block on that alone.  If someone else wants to block on
the basis of a RDNS test alone that's between them and their customers.
We only process around 10,000 messages a day but complaints about email
delivery to (or from) us are almost nonexistent.  When we do get a
complaint we work with the sender and get the problem resolved.  We make
sure the customer understands the problem (weather it's on our end or
another ISP's).  All of our customers are business users so we are very
concerned about having email get through.  Our customers
(docters,lawyers,ect.) are more concerned that messages are being
delivered than they are about receiving SPAM.  The level of SPAM that
gets by our servers is so small that clients rarely complain.  That said
there is always room for improvement :-).

Cheers,

Gary



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