Bill, you seem to be in an ill mood about this...  Notice that I did check
it out and respond accurately a few minutes afterwards, but the reason I
didn't check it first is that almost everyone who claims that they "own" the
IP range will be wrong...especially as Sandy pointed out with the
misunderstanding about the difference between forward and reverse DNS, and
not already having a PTR for the MX in 2005...  So, yes, I was wrong, but I
stand by the narrowing process of troubleshooting issues of any kind.  You
start with the most common causes and narrow it down until you've reached
the heart of the issue.

Nuff said...let's drop it.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] PTR records on our own Class C


Ken said he owned the address space (twice), most did not bother to confirm
or refute that statement before disregarding.

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bill Landry" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:28 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] PTR records on our own Class C


>> Yes,  but  it's  the  wrong  answer  that  sends  someone  off on an
>> unnecessary wild-goose chase. . .
>
> Not  truly  a  wild-goose  chase,  as  the  ISP  --  usually much more
> responsive  by  phone  than  a  registrar  -- would be able to rapidly
> discern  the  extenuating  routing  circumstances and would direct the
> client to the proper place.
>
> And  I'd  say  that  Darin's  999/1000  is actually much too low. It's
> probably more like 99,999/100,000 times that a person who. . .
>
> a) doesn't have a PTR for their mailserver in April 2005;
>
> b) doesn't know that forward DNS is unrelated to reverse DNS;
>
> c)  exhausts  the  DNS  resources  on the net without finding guidance
> there;
>
> d) posts to an IMail list with this FAQ, without noting that they have
> already  consulted  their  bandwidth  provider, as the archives (until
> now) always recommend; and
>
> e) is the sole IT person charged with solving this problem
>
> .  . . does not own their Class C. This is not meant as a slur on Ken,
> who  certainly has skills outside this arena that we do not, but based
> on experience.
>
> --Sandy
>
>
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