Carol, Can you elaborate on what you find confusing?
- Serge On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Carol Kraemer <[email protected]> wrote: > Serge, > > As a new person trying to understand the OSM community and culture, I find > this more confusing though it is insightful in and of itself. > > -Carol > > > > ------------------------------------- > Carol Kraemer > North River Geographic Systems, Inc > http://www.northrivergeographic.com > 404.431.0125 [email protected] > > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Serge Wroclawski <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> In light of recent activity, and frankly because we've had a large >> influx of new members (especially new members from the OSM US board) >> join the group in the last 3 days, I want to go over this group's >> history, its mission and its scope. >> >> For anyone who hasn't seen the talk I gave in San Fransisco, I >> strongly suggest you watch my video on the topic of the group: >> >> >> http://stateofthemap.us/saturday.html#schedule/saturday/the-u-s--imports-and-bots-oh-my >> >> Basically, when we started this group, "import" was a bad word in OSM. >> It was something that senior OSMers frowned upon, and there was a very >> combative atmosphere even on the imports@osm mailing list. >> >> I realized that this needed to change, that we needed imports, but >> that the problems being pointed out were serious and needed >> addressing. To that end, I decided that we'd make a new mailing list, >> and have face to face meetings. That second part, the face to face >> meetings, has been crucial. It has entirely shifted the tone of the >> discussions in many cases. >> >> And the results have been good, I think. >> >> But what folks may not realize (and I may not be making clear) is the >> very limited scope of the group within the OSM ecosystem. We're not >> the same as the imports@osm list and we don't supersede it. >> >> We also don't have control over the import guidelines. We can offer >> our help in changing them, but we can't control them or override them. >> We're like a neighborhood watch, we can work with, but never override >> the police. >> >> And so what is this latest draft? It's something that came out of the >> discussion at last week's meeting where the osm.us site would have an >> import onramp process, one which needed to be both welcoming and >> warning at the same time. >> >> So I've clearly not done a good job at conveying that, but also we >> (this group) has no control over the DWG- outside offering our help in >> order to change the process- and we have discussed doing that. But we >> discussed doing that in small stages. Maybe, as Alex suggests, we >> should take that on first, but that's something I'd like to discuss >> first, before we act. >> >> I hope this has cleared confusion, if there was any. >> >> - Serge >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Imports-us mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports-us > > _______________________________________________ Imports-us mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports-us
