Serge, You have completely missed nearly every point I have tried to present here. And we have met before at the first SotM in Atlanta.
As for the feedback, you received quite a bit of feedback on the very document that you are trying to focus on. I rewrote a portion of it and Mele edited it as well. Randy and I provided comments to help with the discussion that you also said was important to this process. I even suggested taking my comments to another thread if it was not in the appropriate place for that discussion. -Carol ------------------------------------- Carol Kraemer North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 404.431.0125 [email protected] On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Serge Wroclawski <[email protected]> wrote: > Carol, > > My issue is this is not "Serge vs Carol" or "Serge vs Randal". In > fact, I liked Randal for the few hours I met him back in Atlanta so > many years ago (that doesn't mean I don't like you- I've just never > met you). > > I will tell you that I'm quite frustrated when I read comments like > this from you, "The fact that you have brought up on many occasions > that GIS folk couldn't possibly understand how perform high level > geospatial problem solving is quite frankly more than a little > insulting." - as I've never said, or implied any such thing. You > might as well have said "Oh Serge, he tortures puppies and eats > babies". It certainly doesn't make me excited to work collaboratively > with you. > > > What I'm trying to do is limit the scope of the discussion to one > document because the other documents (the guidelines, the role of the > other groups, the role of the DWG) are separate. That doesn't mean I > don't care about them, but I was asked by Martijn (OSM US president) > to do something and that is what I'm doing for now. > > Of course the import guidelines need modification. I agree they need > radical modification, and I bet if you polled most of the DWG they'd > say the same thing. But changing that will take more time than "Let's > throw a web page up talking about this issue directly". > > I've been frustrated because I'm looking for feedback on one thing, > and the response has had a lot of other issues mixed in. It really > muddies the waters, which is why I've been saying "Let's stick just to > this, and only this way"- in order to try to get this done so that we > could move onto other topics. I just want to avoid taking on too much > at first and never getting it done. We've gone down that road a few > times, and I'm trying to learn from past mistakes. > > - Serge >
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