Carol, My issue is this is not "Serge vs Carol" or "Serge vs Randal". In fact, I liked Randal for the few hours I met him back in Atlanta so many years ago (that doesn't mean I don't like you- I've just never met you).
I will tell you that I'm quite frustrated when I read comments like this from you, "The fact that you have brought up on many occasions that GIS folk couldn't possibly understand how perform high level geospatial problem solving is quite frankly more than a little insulting." - as I've never said, or implied any such thing. You might as well have said "Oh Serge, he tortures puppies and eats babies". It certainly doesn't make me excited to work collaboratively with you. What I'm trying to do is limit the scope of the discussion to one document because the other documents (the guidelines, the role of the other groups, the role of the DWG) are separate. That doesn't mean I don't care about them, but I was asked by Martijn (OSM US president) to do something and that is what I'm doing for now. Of course the import guidelines need modification. I agree they need radical modification, and I bet if you polled most of the DWG they'd say the same thing. But changing that will take more time than "Let's throw a web page up talking about this issue directly". I've been frustrated because I'm looking for feedback on one thing, and the response has had a lot of other issues mixed in. It really muddies the waters, which is why I've been saying "Let's stick just to this, and only this way"- in order to try to get this done so that we could move onto other topics. I just want to avoid taking on too much at first and never getting it done. We've gone down that road a few times, and I'm trying to learn from past mistakes. - Serge _______________________________________________ Imports-us mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports-us
