2007/7/10, Simon Phipps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On Jul 10, 2007, at 07:23, Tim Bray wrote:

> On Jul 9, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Richard Elling wrote:
>
>>> Minor point, we don't need to use something as braindead as sudo,
>>> we're Solaris, we can use RBAC.
>
> Remember, every time you take something out that people are used to
> and seemed to work, you increase the Solaris barrier to entry.  I've
> been using sudo for years and, silly me, it seemed pretty secure and
> pretty useful.  So if you're not going to provide it, there needs to
> be an instantly-accessible explanation of how to achieve the same
> effect with RBAC.  -Tim

I'm with Tim and Doug on this one. The principle I believe we need to
follow in making the perfect Solaris for the GNU/Linux user is to
ensure everything expected is present, and that compromises or
conflicts like this one lead to a better not a worse experience. If
in the process they can lead to improvements to Solaris Classic,
that's even better.

Wild idea: Maybe in this case we need an implementation of sudo
that's configured by and a subset of RBAC so that new users graduate
to RBAC over time?


That's a great idea, not wild at all,  putting some help on the /etc/sudoers
file explaining how to use RBAC to achieve the same common tasks than sudo
would rock, and you would introduce another great feature of Solaris.

S.




--
Un saludo,
Alberto Ruiz
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