Hi Doug,

V út, 10. 07. 2007 v 15:28, Doug Scott píše:
> Milan Jurik wrote:
> > Why are you prefering Linux users and not MS Windows users? Or maybe Mac
> > OS X users? I don't really understand why somebody is speaking about
> > Linux users only. 
> 
> I do not think that we are excluding Windows or Max OS X users. It is 
> just that the Linux and Solaris userland is so much closer. JDS was an 
> attempt to convert some Windows users.
> 

I didn't see real discussion around MS Win or Mac OS users here... What
I saw here, it was - give me GNU userland now, now, now... As I wrote,
in that case -> Nexenta.

> > Is Linux so much better in usability than other
> > platforms? Or has wider users base than others? I don't think so. Leave
> > clonning of GNU world on Nexenta, it's their job. Try to find better
> > ways then just clonning, duplicating etc.
> >
> >   
> >> Wild idea: Maybe in this case we need an implementation of sudo  
> >> that's configured by and a subset of RBAC so that new users graduate  
> >> to RBAC over time?
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > Yes, implement sudo as "wrapper" around Solaris solutions, why not. This
> > is good point.
> >   
> 
> A wrapper or a conversion tool would be nice, though I do not really 
> thing that sudo is a total subset of RBAC. My experience in the past is 
> that its is a union. I have seen problems getting people to convert from 
> sudo to RBAC. Simple things such as 'cd' is actually part of the shell 
> rather than a real command stopped the a project in it's tracks.
> 

OK, please, can you identify these problems, fill RFE and/or implement
them? Or just guide how to use RBAC is missing? sudo can have some
significant benefits in functionality/interface, from which we should
learn. I don't know, I never used sudo in my 10 years with Linux. But
I'm using RBAC, much better for me as desktop user.

And yes, this discussion is strange, it is about simple small tools, not
about real OS and its ways.

Best regards,

Milan


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