Not at all boring.
without turning a single page of the book the Botany of 1973 is getting revised 
for me.
thanks sir
Madhuri

--- On Thu, 3/9/09, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> Subject: [indiantreepix:17528] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ?
> To: "Nayan Singh" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 6:32 PM
> 
> 
>  
> #yiv1957824168 DIV {
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> 
> 
>  
>  
> Nayan ji, your wild guess
> was correct in one 
> sense. Cassia glauca Lam. and C. surattensis Burm.f.
> are both synonyms of 
> now correctly known Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin &
> Barneby. At the 
> finer level true surattensis with larger (2-4 inches)
> leafets in 4-6 pairs, pods 
> 6-8 inches long and known as Senna surattensis
> (Burm.f.) Irwin & 
> Barneby subsp. surattensis, whereas C. glauca Lam. (C.
> glauca var. 
> suffruticosa Koenig in Flora of British India) with 6-9
> pair of smaller leaflets 
> (1-2 inches) and smaller pods (3-4 inches. is Senna
> surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin 
> & Barneby   subsp. sulphurea (DC. ex
> Collad) 
> Randell.
>  
> And now an interesting
> one. C. glauca Lam. was 
> published in 1789, whereas C. surattensis Burm.f. in 1768,
> and hence latter gets 
> priority when two are treated as same species. At
> subspecies level, true 
> surattensis is subsp. surattensis (no authority, as it is
> automatically created 
> name if we treat C. glauca as distinct subspecies-it is
> autonym). and now you 
> will ask why not to use subsp. glauca as name. Well Cassia
> glauca Lam, 1789 and 
> C. sulphurea DC. ex Collad., 1816 are synonyms, and hence
> former is prefered, 
> but when transferred to genus Senna (all 10 stamens
> perfect) Senna glauca Roxb., 
> is already used for a different species, and sulphurea gets
> 
> preference.
>  
> I hope it was not very
> boring. . 
>  
>  
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa 
> College
> University of Delhi, Delhi
> India
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
> 
>   ----- Original Message
> ----- 
>   From: 
>   Nayan 
>   Singh 
>   To: Gurcharan Singh
> 
>   Cc: indiantreepix
> 
>   Sent: Thursday,
> September 03, 2009 7:22 
>   AM
>   Subject: Re:
> [indiantreepix:17454] Re: 
>   ... Cassia ¿ species ?
>   
> 
>   
>   
>   Gurcharan ji yesterday i id it as Cassia
> glauca, but some 
>   how it is missing in the thread, what do you
> think about my this wild 
>   guess?
>   thanks
>  N.S.Dungriyal IFS
> Chief Conservator of 
>   Forests
> and Field Director
> Satpura Tiger Reserve 
>   Hoshangabad
> M.P.
> 09424792100 
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
>   
>   From:
> Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> To: Yazdy Palia
> <[email protected]>;
> Kenneth Greby 
>   <[email protected]>
> Cc: Indian Tree Pix
> <[email protected]>;
> 
>   Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, 3
> September, 2009 
>   12:19:53 AM
> Subject: 
>   [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ?
> 
> 
> Not Cassia 
>   fistula atleast which has distinctive cylindrical long
> pods. This 
> one 
>   seems more probably C. surratensis, the only thing that
> looks different 
> to 
>   me is the thin long stalk of pod. The specimens in our
> garden don't have 
>   
> such long stalks. Leaves and flowers resemble.
> 
> 
> Dr. Gurcharan 
>   Singh
> Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College
> University of Delhi, 
>   Delhi
> India
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
> ----- Original Message 
>   ----- 
> From: "Yazdy Palia" <[email protected]>
> To: 
>   "Kenneth Greby" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Indian 
>   Tree Pix" <[email protected]>; 
>   "Dinesh Valke" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: 
>   Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:11 PM
> Subject: [indiantreepix:17443] Re: 
>   ... Cassia ¿ species ?
> 
> 
> 
> Hello friends,
> could it be cassia 
>   fistula? Please check up
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shower_Tree
> Regards
> Yazdy.
> 
> On 
>   Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kenneth Greby<[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
>   Dinesh--
> >
> > I don't believe that this is Senna spectabilis
> (Syn 
>   S. excelsa, S.
> > carnaval) due to the flattened seedpods. S.
> spectabilis 
>   has roundish to
> > squared (in cross-section) pods with some muscilage 
>   present.
> >
> > This looks closer to S. surattensis, but I am not 
>   positive of that ID.
> >
> > Regards--
> > Ken 
>   Greby.
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> 
>   wrote:
> >
> > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
> > 
>   Subject: [indiantreepix:17425] ... Cassia ¿ species ?
> > To: "Indian Tree 
>   Pix" <[email protected]>
> > 
>   Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:20 AM
> >
> > Hello 
>   friends,
> >
> > A large shrub of Cassia planted along an avenue near 
>   Yeoor Hills, photos
> > taken on 22 AUG 09.
> >
> > My friend 
>   Ajinkya Gadave has already commented in Flickr about this
> plant 
> > 
>   to
> > be Cassia spectabilis.
> > Please validate ID.
> >
> > 
>   Regards.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
>   >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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