Thanks, Singh ji, for your efforts, explaining the things in such a simple way. Botany is being enjoyed this way, in contrast to what we felt in school days.
2009/9/3 Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> > > Not at all boring. > without turning a single page of the book the Botany of 1973 is getting > revised for me. > thanks sir > Madhuri > > --- On Thu, 3/9/09, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > > Subject: [indiantreepix:17528] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? > > To: "Nayan Singh" <[email protected]> > > Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 6:32 PM > > > > > > > > #yiv1957824168 DIV { > > MARGIN:0px;} > > > > > > > > > > Nayan ji, your wild guess > > was correct in one > > sense. Cassia glauca Lam. and C. surattensis Burm.f. > > are both synonyms of > > now correctly known Senna surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin & > > Barneby. At the > > finer level true surattensis with larger (2-4 inches) > > leafets in 4-6 pairs, pods > > 6-8 inches long and known as Senna surattensis > > (Burm.f.) Irwin & > > Barneby subsp. surattensis, whereas C. glauca Lam. (C. > > glauca var. > > suffruticosa Koenig in Flora of British India) with 6-9 > > pair of smaller leaflets > > (1-2 inches) and smaller pods (3-4 inches. is Senna > > surattensis (Burm.f.) Irwin > > & Barneby subsp. sulphurea (DC. ex > > Collad) > > Randell. > > > > And now an interesting > > one. C. glauca Lam. was > > published in 1789, whereas C. surattensis Burm.f. in 1768, > > and hence latter gets > > priority when two are treated as same species. At > > subspecies level, true > > surattensis is subsp. surattensis (no authority, as it is > > automatically created > > name if we treat C. glauca as distinct subspecies-it is > > autonym). and now you > > will ask why not to use subsp. glauca as name. Well Cassia > > glauca Lam, 1789 and > > C. sulphurea DC. ex Collad., 1816 are synonyms, and hence > > former is prefered, > > but when transferred to genus Senna (all 10 stamens > > perfect) Senna glauca Roxb., > > is already used for a different species, and sulphurea gets > > > > preference. > > > > I hope it was not very > > boring. . > > > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa > > College > > University of Delhi, Delhi > > India > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 > > > > ----- Original Message > > ----- > > From: > > Nayan > > Singh > > To: Gurcharan Singh > > > > Cc: indiantreepix > > > > Sent: Thursday, > > September 03, 2009 7:22 > > AM > > Subject: Re: > > [indiantreepix:17454] Re: > > ... Cassia ¿ species ? > > > > > > > > > > Gurcharan ji yesterday i id it as Cassia > > glauca, but some > > how it is missing in the thread, what do you > > think about my this wild > > guess? > > thanks > > N.S.Dungriyal IFS > > Chief Conservator of > > Forests > > and Field Director > > Satpura Tiger Reserve > > Hoshangabad > > M.P. > > 09424792100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > > To: Yazdy Palia > > <[email protected]>; > > Kenneth Greby > > <[email protected]> > > Cc: Indian Tree Pix > > <[email protected]>; > > > > Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, 3 > > September, 2009 > > 12:19:53 AM > > Subject: > > [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? > > > > > > Not Cassia > > fistula atleast which has distinctive cylindrical long > > pods. This > > one > > seems more probably C. surratensis, the only thing that > > looks different > > to > > me is the thin long stalk of pod. The specimens in our > > garden don't have > > > > such long stalks. Leaves and flowers resemble. > > > > > > Dr. Gurcharan > > Singh > > Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College > > University of Delhi, > > Delhi > > India > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 > > ----- Original Message > > ----- > > From: "Yazdy Palia" <[email protected]> > > To: > > "Kenneth Greby" <[email protected]> > > Cc: "Indian > > Tree Pix" <[email protected]>; > > "Dinesh Valke" > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: > > Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:11 PM > > Subject: [indiantreepix:17443] Re: > > ... Cassia ¿ species ? > > > > > > > > Hello friends, > > could it be cassia > > fistula? Please check up > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shower_Tree > > Regards > > Yazdy. > > > > On > > Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kenneth Greby<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Dinesh-- > > > > > > I don't believe that this is Senna spectabilis > > (Syn > > S. excelsa, S. > > > carnaval) due to the flattened seedpods. S. > > spectabilis > > has roundish to > > > squared (in cross-section) pods with some muscilage > > present. > > > > > > This looks closer to S. surattensis, but I am not > > positive of that ID. > > > > > > Regards-- > > > Ken > > Greby. > > > > > > --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: [indiantreepix:17425] ... Cassia ¿ species ? > > > To: "Indian Tree > > Pix" <[email protected]> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:20 AM > > > > > > Hello > > friends, > > > > > > A large shrub of Cassia planted along an avenue near > > Yeoor Hills, photos > > > taken on 22 AUG 09. > > > > > > My friend > > Ajinkya Gadave has already commented in Flickr about this > > plant > > > > > to > > > be Cassia spectabilis. > > > Please validate ID. > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video > > highlights and more. > > Click here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and > more. 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