Hi, Fair enough, but a difficult conclusion specially if one has seen both species in the wild. With regards, Neil Soares.
From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> To: Neil Soares <[email protected]> Cc: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>; efloraofindia <[email protected]>; radha veach <[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:179852] Bridelia spinosa Thanks, Neil ji, I will go with Tapas ji who is an expert on this family that B.spinosa and B.squamosa are syn. of B.retusa (as in Flora of India), which is also agreed to by the following well known sources: The Plant List India Biodiversity Portal Bridelia retusa (L.) - Nationaal Herbarium Nederland Catalogue of Life: 2010 Annual Checklist This has also been discussed previously in our group & details can be seen at ID 300911. More details can be seen at Bridelia retusa On 21 January 2014 22:19, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Dinesh, > A slight correction - B.spinosa [previously B.retusa] and B.squamosa are >the 2 species of trees found in Maharashtra. > Regards, > Neil Soares. > > >From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >To: Neil Soares <[email protected]> >Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:58 PM > >Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:179781] Bridelia spinosa > > > >Thanks Neil ji for stressing that B. spinosa and B. squamosa (B. retusa) are >separate species. (I had come to understand that the spines are shed as the >tree matures, thus easily convinced that the two species are synonymous). I >will correct my notes at earliest. >Regards. >Dinesh > > > >On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >>Hi, >> Managed to find only this one specimen of a drupe of Bridelia spinosa. The >>photographs were taken in Jan.12 at the base of Visagadh fort in Lonavala. >> Distinctly remember having eaten it and planting the seed which >>unfortunately did not germinate. >> With regards, >> Neil Soares. >>From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>To: Neil Soares <[email protected]> >>Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 10:55 PM >>Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:179781] Bridelia spinosa >> >> >> >>I will take look at my post Neil ji and return. >>Many many thanks for validating the ID. >>Regards. >>Dinesh >> >> >> >>On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Hi, >>> My apologies. The third link was supposed to be this : >>> >>>https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Ultramarine$20Flycatcher$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:true/indiantreepix/9qv7OFUnUzc/oOCoTT8fmOUJ >>> >>> With regards, >>> Neil Soares. >>> >>> >>>From: Neil Soares <[email protected]> >>>To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 6:34 PM >>>Subject: [efloraofindia:179764] Bridelia spinosa >>> >>> >>> >>>Hi, >>> For many years have faced the dilemma on how to differentiate between >>>B.squamosa & B.spinosa. Most reference books are pretty ambiguous. >>>Dr.Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra' mentions that in the former the bark is >>>yellowish and the drupes fleshy and presumably greenish with a yellowish >>>tinge, whereas in the latter the bark is greyish and the drupes >>>purplish-black. >>> >>> >>> >>>I believe I have the problem licked. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>B.spinosa differs from B.squamosa in having smaller, narrower and more >>>pointed leaves. >>> >>>Have not encountered B.spinosa in / around Bombay or at Shahapur. >>> >>>The tree is well showcased at Khandala and Lonavala. Sending a few >>>photographs. >>> >>> >>> >>>My previous posts at these links are therefore erroneous : >>> >>>https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Bridelia$20squamosa$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:true/indiantreepix/Oupy57ArXmk/3zVyjiE9pewJ >>> >>>https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Bridelia$20squamosa$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:true/indiantreepix/WsoN77-a294/P-Eq821tl_wJ >>> >>>https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/e5981f3f4da8e0a0/Bridelia%20spinosa%20%5BAsana%5D%20drupes%202.jpg?part=5&authuser=0&view=1 >>> >>>My apologies to H.S. for this : >>> >>>https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Bridelia$20squamosa$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:true/indiantreepix/WmxQrvpKXHw/7RLlpEv1bpEJ >>> >>>Inadventently got it right at this link, but this was also photographed at >>>Khandala : >>> >>>https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Bridelia$20squamosa$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:true/indiantreepix/BAn29z9TkuY/WuLOYwqRbLUJ >>> >>>Also therefore feel that Dinesh Valke's recent post of a tree at ? Yeoor ? >>>Thane was also way off the mark. >>> >>> With regards, >>> Neil Soares. >>> >>>P.S. 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