Gurcharan Ji, Thanks for the distinguishing features of the leaves of Grevillea, and the id of my pictures based on these features. No Thanks a lot once again. Usha Di, No travel plans as of now, will let you know if there are any.
Regards, Aarti On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Ushadi > Yes It can't be G. victoriae in which leaves are unidivided > In fact there are three groups of Grevillea species > 1. Those with simple leaves: G. victoriae, G. juniperina, G. lanigera > 2. Leaves bipinnatifid as in G. robusta, > 3. Leaves pinnatifid or pinnatisect as in G. banksii. To me Aarti ji's > plant looks like G. banksii 'Superb' > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dr Munshi >> Its not g. victoriae >> both the leaves and the inflorescence are very different.. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grevillea_victoriae >> >> lots of differences >> >> usha di >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Prof Munshi Ji, >>> Thank you Sir for appreciation and suggested id. >>> Regards, >>> Aarti >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Abid Munshi <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Khale >>>> The photograph uploaded is beauiful >>>> Most of the species of Grevillea being grown in California are hybrids >>>> but it seems the photograph is G. victoria >>>> Prof. A. H. Munshi >>>> >>>> On 24 December 2014 at 09:58, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Usha Di, >>>>> I have attached all the pictures I had. >>>>> Unfortunately, don't have any more details to reply about. >>>>> How I am suppose to take the measurements would be anybody's guess, >>>>> since it would be a guess only. >>>>> How am I suppose to study the flowering season of an ornamental I have >>>>> come across in a sight seeing trip? >>>>> I really wish I had the answers and could help you further. >>>>> Thanks for taking such a lot of interest in this Grevillea. >>>>> For me, I am happy to identify it as a Grevillea Species Cultivar. >>>>> Good day and regards, >>>>> Aarti >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:28 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I too look forward to Aarti Ji's feedback. >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Any new thoughts >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gargji please dont mark this as complete >>>>>>> >>>>>>> we dont have an answer from Aarti yet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks Surajit for clarifying >>>>>>>> it was not clear to me >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> now Aarti has work to do, let see what come up in the measurement >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:17 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Didi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "a search for its ("superb") leaf and comparing other details >>>>>>>>> like inflo size, flowering season (throughout year) may help go >>>>>>>>> further" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The above means I have rather requested Aarti Ji to check leaf >>>>>>>>> images and verify if those stats on inflo-leaves etc (of superb) do >>>>>>>>> conform >>>>>>>>> with her species. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Surajit >>>>>>>>>> how did you measure the inflorescence size? several pictures are >>>>>>>>>> at an angle, not parallel to the inflorescence , so size ca n not be >>>>>>>>>> determines=d one picture may be used but how? no reference object >>>>>>>>>> like a >>>>>>>>>> pen, a ruler a coin or a finger etc is present... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> only match is flowering in late summer and fall... but that's in >>>>>>>>>> australian queensland fall... >>>>>>>>>> i dont have time to compare and find the temperature humidity and >>>>>>>>>> rains etc in queensland and compare it to southern california inland >>>>>>>>>> areas >>>>>>>>>> .... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:43 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good morning Didi, since you have already suggested a >>>>>>>>>>> possibility I also thought of *G.* "superb", a search for its >>>>>>>>>>> ("superb") leaf and comparing other details like inflo size, >>>>>>>>>>> flowering >>>>>>>>>>> season (throughout year) may help go further. Of-course that would >>>>>>>>>>> be a >>>>>>>>>>> probability only. >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Surajit >>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful that you found and shared these links... >>>>>>>>>>>> if one peruses these it becomes obvious that many sp and many >>>>>>>>>>>> many more cultivars are being studied by these groups.. >>>>>>>>>>>> yes there at least one and one comes across a few more very >>>>>>>>>>>> active study groups of exotics , not to mention university level >>>>>>>>>>>> groups to >>>>>>>>>>>> study and id these ... with live specimen in hand and often if not >>>>>>>>>>>> live, >>>>>>>>>>>> superb close ups all aspects of the plants and flowers and >>>>>>>>>>>> dissections... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for the fifth pic , but it dos not tell me the plant >>>>>>>>>>>> size and details of the leaves etc... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy with Grevillea sp, cultivar .... >>>>>>>>>>>> questions that arise with any plant and esp here with so many >>>>>>>>>>>> cultivars out there... >>>>>>>>>>>> what is the shape of the plant, how tall, what does the stem >>>>>>>>>>>> and bark look like, branching, leaves details, and then flower >>>>>>>>>>>> spike/inflorescence ... size etc... >>>>>>>>>>>> I am not even sure of the color..is it pink? is it red? is it >>>>>>>>>>>> orange? is it orangeish red? digital cameras do a number with >>>>>>>>>>>> some red >>>>>>>>>>>> colored flowers and leaves ... ... unless we also take a reference >>>>>>>>>>>> card >>>>>>>>>>>> with us and photograph it along with red its often difficult ... >>>>>>>>>>>> esp out >>>>>>>>>>>> under the open sky... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> now the question is : which do i pick from these ps pics >>>>>>>>>>>> above taken in a hurry: which cultivar??? >>>>>>>>>>>> ..".ned kelly", "superb",, or "robyn gordon", cultivars or is >>>>>>>>>>>> it g. juniperina? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> its a difficult task , you'll agree when you see and read the >>>>>>>>>>>> difficulties in nailing the diagnosis based on these pictures >>>>>>>>>>>> only.... >>>>>>>>>>>> imagine the intense scrutiny the study group undertakes... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There were many cultivars in australia already and then i can >>>>>>>>>>>> imagine all the cultivars developed since it became popular in >>>>>>>>>>>> american >>>>>>>>>>>> southwest... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *my final diagnosis is red flowering cultivar of Grevillea sp.* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am glad you showed these and it will be in the database in >>>>>>>>>>>> indiatreepix as an australian plant, and in this day and age of >>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>> xeriscaping plants finding a place in international growers lists, >>>>>>>>>>>> it may >>>>>>>>>>>> come to india like the artichokes, kiwi, avocado etc etc have .. >>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>> knows..it may be a start of another conversation.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but today this is as far i am willing to go based on the data >>>>>>>>>>>> we have. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> iti... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Surajit Ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It does look like my Grevillea. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let the experts decide, since I am not one. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:41 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for an interesting unknown exotica, this pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sgapqld.org.au/growing_grevilleas.pdf> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> article >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.pacifichorticulture.org/articles/best-grevilleas-for-southern-california/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with http://anpsa.org.au/g-super1.html may help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:25 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole plant? ht ?? etc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its mind boggling to say the least... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grevillea_cultivars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A small tree, hardly 10 feet in height cultivated in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garden overlooking the Golden Gate Bridge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grevillea banksii comes to my mind on searching further. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So many different colors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought G. robusta only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G. lanigera, G. juniperina, are displayed as small shrubs in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hanging baskets in Farmers markets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i am not so sure of the diagnosis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its just not three >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many many are sold esp in california >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggested id. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could locate one more picture, giving an idea of the small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tree. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 6 November 2014 20:28 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:205415] Small Ornamental Tree : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grevillea Species : California : 06NOV14 : AK-18 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grevillea Species seen in San Francisco on 1/10/14. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A small,ornamental tree. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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