Yes Sir, that's what I wanted to say. Thank you very much for confirming. Regards surajit
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Surajit ji > The best solution is to call it Grevillea X 'Superb' (white flowered G. > banksii X G. pinnatifida) > > Here is the full story > > > http://www.somemagneticislandplants.com.au/index.php/plants/848-grevillea-x-superb > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Surajit >> I dont knowe >> >> am tired i >> >> >> but one thing I can tell you is 'Superb' means its a cultivar... >> of whatever the lineage... >> enough already... >> >> >> usha di >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks that it has been settled finally. But, my question is - Is G. >>> banksii 'Superb' same as Grevillea 'Superb'? >>> If yes, next question - >>> Why is it G. banksii 'Superb'? >>> Why not *G. bipinnatifida* 'Superb'? >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Gurcharan Ji, >>>> Thanks for the distinguishing features of the leaves of Grevillea, and >>>> the id of my pictures based on these features. >>>> No >>>> Thanks a lot once again. >>>> Usha Di, >>>> No travel plans as of now, will let you know if there are any. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Aarti >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Ushadi >>>>> Yes It can't be G. victoriae in which leaves are unidivided >>>>> In fact there are three groups of Grevillea species >>>>> 1. Those with simple leaves: G. victoriae, G. juniperina, G. lanigera >>>>> 2. Leaves bipinnatifid as in G. robusta, >>>>> 3. Leaves pinnatifid or pinnatisect as in G. banksii. To me Aarti ji's >>>>> plant looks like G. banksii 'Superb' >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dr Munshi >>>>>> Its not g. victoriae >>>>>> both the leaves and the inflorescence are very different.. >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grevillea_victoriae >>>>>> >>>>>> lots of differences >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Prof Munshi Ji, >>>>>>> Thank you Sir for appreciation and suggested id. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Abid Munshi <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Khale >>>>>>>> The photograph uploaded is beauiful >>>>>>>> Most of the species of Grevillea being grown in California are >>>>>>>> hybrids but it seems the photograph is G. victoria >>>>>>>> Prof. A. H. Munshi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24 December 2014 at 09:58, Aarti S. Khale <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Usha Di, >>>>>>>>> I have attached all the pictures I had. >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, don't have any more details to reply about. >>>>>>>>> How I am suppose to take the measurements would be anybody's >>>>>>>>> guess, since it would be a guess only. >>>>>>>>> How am I suppose to study the flowering season of an ornamental I >>>>>>>>> have come across in a sight seeing trip? >>>>>>>>> I really wish I had the answers and could help you further. >>>>>>>>> Thanks for taking such a lot of interest in this Grevillea. >>>>>>>>> For me, I am happy to identify it as a Grevillea Species Cultivar. >>>>>>>>> Good day and regards, >>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:28 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I too look forward to Aarti Ji's feedback. >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any new thoughts >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gargji please dont mark this as complete >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> we dont have an answer from Aarti yet >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks Surajit for clarifying >>>>>>>>>>>> it was not clear to me >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> now Aarti has work to do, let see what come up in the >>>>>>>>>>>> measurement >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:17 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Didi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "a search for its ("superb") leaf and comparing other details >>>>>>>>>>>>> like inflo size, flowering season (throughout year) may help go >>>>>>>>>>>>> further" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The above means I have rather requested Aarti Ji to check leaf >>>>>>>>>>>>> images and verify if those stats on inflo-leaves etc (of superb) >>>>>>>>>>>>> do conform >>>>>>>>>>>>> with her species. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how did you measure the inflorescence size? several pictures >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are at an angle, not parallel to the inflorescence , so size ca >>>>>>>>>>>>>> n not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> determines=d one picture may be used but how? no reference >>>>>>>>>>>>>> object like a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pen, a ruler a coin or a finger etc is present... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only match is flowering in late summer and fall... but that's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in australian queensland fall... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i dont have time to compare and find the temperature humidity >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rains etc in queensland and compare it to southern >>>>>>>>>>>>>> california inland >>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas .... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:43 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning Didi, since you have already suggested a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility I also thought of *G.* "superb", a search for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its ("superb") leaf and comparing other details like inflo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> size, flowering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season (throughout year) may help go further. Of-course that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probability only. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful that you found and shared these links... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if one peruses these it becomes obvious that many sp and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many many more cultivars are being studied by these groups.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes there at least one and one comes across a few more very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active study groups of exotics , not to mention university >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level groups to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> study and id these ... with live specimen in hand and often if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not live, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superb close ups all aspects of the plants and flowers and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dissections... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for the fifth pic , but it dos not tell me the plant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> size and details of the leaves etc... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy with Grevillea sp, cultivar .... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions that arise with any plant and esp here with so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many cultivars out there... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is the shape of the plant, how tall, what does the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stem and bark look like, branching, leaves details, and then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flower >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spike/inflorescence ... size etc... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not even sure of the color..is it pink? is it red? is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it orange? is it orangeish red? digital cameras do a number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with some red >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colored flowers and leaves ... ... unless we also take a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference card >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with us and photograph it along with red its often difficult >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... esp out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under the open sky... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now the question is : which do i pick from these ps pics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above taken in a hurry: which cultivar??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..".ned kelly", "superb",, or "robyn gordon", cultivars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or is it g. juniperina? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its a difficult task , you'll agree when you see and read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the difficulties in nailing the diagnosis based on these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pictures only.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine the intense scrutiny the study group undertakes... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were many cultivars in australia already and then i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can imagine all the cultivars developed since it became >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> popular in american >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southwest... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *my final diagnosis is red flowering cultivar of Grevillea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sp.* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am glad you showed these and it will be in the database >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in indiatreepix as an australian plant, and in this day and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> age of all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xeriscaping plants finding a place in international growers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists, it may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to india like the artichokes, kiwi, avocado etc etc have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows..it may be a start of another conversation.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but today this is as far i am willing to go based on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data we have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iti... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Aarti S. Khale < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surajit Ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does look like my Grevillea. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let the experts decide, since I am not one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:41 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for an interesting unknown exotica, this pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sgapqld.org.au/growing_grevilleas.pdf> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.pacifichorticulture.org/articles/best-grevilleas-for-southern-california/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with http://anpsa.org.au/g-super1.html may help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:25 PM, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole plant? ht ?? etc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its mind boggling to say the least... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grevillea_cultivars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A small tree, hardly 10 feet in height cultivated in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the garden overlooking the Golden Gate Bridge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grevillea banksii comes to my mind on searching further. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So many different colors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought G. robusta only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G. lanigera, G. juniperina, are displayed as small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shrubs in hanging baskets in Farmers markets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i am not so sure of the diagnosis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its just not three >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many many are sold esp in california >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggested id. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could locate one more picture, giving an idea of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small tree. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aarti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Aarti S. 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