Thank you Dr Chauhan. I have your excellent work on the medicinal plants and refer to it regularly. Your kind offer to arrange my visit/stay at the university campus at Solan is very inviting and one day when I am ready to do justice to such a visit, I will request your help.
Regards, Ashwini On 05-Apr-2015, at 8:19 pm, Narain Singh Chauhan <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Ashwani, > Herbarium specimen for clearcut identity of any plant is highly > indispensable. The dreawings and photographs can not tell you the desired > details which the preserved specimen in a recognised herbarium with all field > details appended in the Herb. label on the mounted sheet.We had surveyed > Dharamsala area long back in 1971 and published account of medicinal plants > of Dharasala Forest circle.I have endeavoured to establish herbarium & Museum > st Ayurvedic Research Institute Jogindernagar where I served as Asst Botanist > & Botanist since 1969 to !986 before being invited by the Dr YSP ,UH&F Nauni > Solanto lead the researches on Medicinal plants.In the University too, A good > Herbarium has been established with collection from all over Himachal Pradesh > till my retirement as Prof & Head,Forest Products in March,2010. If you can > spare a couple of days you should visit Nauni,Solan to get first hand > details.If required you can put a call to me and I shall arrange for your > visit and stay in University campus. > With best wishes > Prof.Dr. Narain Singh Chauhan > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]> > wrote: > Thank you Pankaj ji, Usha di and Surajit ji for your advice and comments. > Pankaj ji, I live in Dharamshala, Himachal Pradesh at an altitude of about > 1700-1800m and study plants, birds, butterflies and moths as a hobby. I have > mixed aims in starting and maintaining a herbarium: > > I want to collect plants to study them in greater depth than merely > photographing them allows. I have been uprooting some plants in any case to > have a closer look and to photograph them in better conditions and to look > under a microscope, so why not preserve them and keep them available for > future reference. > > I will not deny the fun element. I began studying them in the first place > because of the joy it afforded me. > > Also as an activity with children it will combine hours of fun with study and > hopefully will instil in them a degree of concern for nature. > > But you have raised valid points in asking the purpose of such a project. > First, I feel not enough is done to study the plants of my area and hence any > careful collection will set a basis for present/future studies. Second, > photographs of a specimen are not always enough to correctly identify and > leave room for further more detailed investigations. Third, an actual plant > helps me look closer and study features that I either overlook in the field > or fail to study properly. > > As a rule if I do not see several specimens of the same plant, I DO NOT > collect a specimen. This way even if I inadvertently take a rare plant, I can > be sure that I am not destroying the only existing sample. Furthermore, by > bringing attention of the experts on this group to a rare species, wherever > encountered, I hope to help save/revive the plant with expert advice. > > Since I have not yet embarked on a collection, I welcome your views on this > matter further. > > Thanks and regards, > Ashwini > > > > On 05-Apr-2015, at 6:02 pm, surajit koley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thank you Didi for those interesting links, something novel to me. At the >> same time I also subscribe to the conservation view. >> >> Regards >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Pankaj , Point well written and taken on my part >> >> May be you should take it up with botany departments at colleges and >> universities and conservation agencies and the environmental departments >> you are passionate about it >> >> good luck >> >> I'll let Ashwini tell you what you asked >> Based on all the cases he has been showing here I personally dont think >> Ashwini had any such notion as decimating plants you are thinking of... >> but still its a good notion to sound the alarm >> >> we all will pay heed to your sentiments . I am sure... >> >> When are you going to show us some more of your orchids >> >> Usha di >> >> >> >> >> >> we have not seen you here for a while now, whats keeping you busy >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: >> My point was a bit different? >> There is no point making herbarium collections just for fun and for hobby. >> I am sorry but I dont know your background properly and neither do I know >> your location. >> If I had known your location then I would have suggested the name of nearest >> herbarium from your place which you can visit to study specimens if you need. >> Some people so specimen collections for fun and infact there are some rare >> species which are going extinct, for example Panchmarhi is a favorite >> destination for botany students, and they go every year in team and every >> year they collect same plants and some rare species, just to prepare report >> for their degree course. To me its WRONG !!! But its my personal view. >> Best regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Dear Ashwini >> >> You want to make herbarium specimen to dry for posterity for science or >> //and >> for making botanical art pieces for framing ( you have a rich fern >> population they make great art pieces) >> >> Its not at all difficult >> just laborious and you need to keep a log of serial number date of >> collecting botanical names place of collection and any and all data you want >> to save and meticulously write at least your serial number and date on the >> newspaper where you are pressing them..the names or serial number of your >> collection written down on the newspapers where you press them initially >> >> and get any many different ones to show the natural variation that nay be in >> any given wild population so they would be your erial number xyz folowed by >> a b c d etc otr small i, ii, iii iv etc >> other wise a mess follows >> I have done it and had to throw out several because i had no way of >> knowing what they were once dried out >> >> Also its a fun thing for children to learn >> of course theirs is usually just a fun thing >> and this site says its not rocket science , I love that sentiment >> and who knows >> it may direct their future lives >> its pure bliss when what you love becomes your professional calling.... >> >> some very good instructions are on the net , at utube from a herbal site >> and also a utube from RBGE and then how to mount the specimen RBGE again >> I looked at these s RBGE utubes before hitting the send button, its really >> quite complete as far as demos go... >> >> >> Read up some in writing... >> one recent one i see is a pdf ... >> and a blog >> >> ONE thing a professor at BHU had told me that in india one perhaps needs to >> rinse out and dry the specimen in some sort of alcohol solution or potassium >> permanganate to deter the fungi that grow.. before putting them in >> newspapers for pressing, i tried it once but ... how does one know that i >> had killed off all spores etc...also a theoretical problem with that is >> flowers will wither etc, >> and chemical analysis later may be interfered with, I donot know exactly >> what folks do in India... >> >> >> ask Dr Rawat or Gurcharanji or Nidhan or Balkar >> >> they would know they are currently professors... and go on collecting trips >> I am sure they dont only take pictures they must be making herbarium too... >> >> then for permanent mounting and saving ...getting supplies to be acid free >> and all those tapes labels envelopes that see thru for small items or fallen >> flowers or seeds etc, if you want to make it like at the NYBG or MOBOT you >> would have to get your relatives to ship them to you do some search, many >> years ago I had found some sites that had catalogs for botanical herbarium >> making and also they had library related acid free supplies... >> >> >> BSI at Kolkata does a course of herbarium making at some campus in salt >> lake you could ask Tapas da >> or do search it at BSI site >> >> good luck >> >> Usha di >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: >> May I know why you wish to make herbarium specimens and where do you live? >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:36 PM, J.M. 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