Hi, Neil ji, There has been a lot of taxonomic confusions in this genus with hundreds of synonyms.
I don't find anything like *Carissa* *congesta* var. *albida* (in Kew Bull. 1948: 490. 1949 <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/speciesDesc_PCL.action?species_id=2065>) either in WCSP <http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/prepareChecklist.do?checklist=selected_families%40%40238260820151230059> or GRIN <https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/taxonomylist.aspx?category=species&type=genus&value=Carissa&id=2090> BSI eflora of India <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/speciesList_PCL.action?resultType=genusWise&parent_Id=2063&parent_Name=carissa> list so many species, which are mostly synonyms now as per WCSP link <http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/synonomy.do?name_id=34226>. As per WCSP <http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?name_id=34148>, *Carissa** congesta* Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. 4: t. 1289 (1848) is a syn. of *Carissa spinarum L., Mant. Pl. 2: 559 (1771).* <http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do;jsessionid=5DAE4065AC6C6CA533656F6D0EA63417?name_id=34226> If you pursue other threads in *Carissa carandas* <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/carissa/carissa-carandas>, you will certainly feel that the current post is of *Carissa carandas* <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/carissa/carissa-carandas> On 25 February 2016 at 18:33, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > This is Carissa cogesta [Wight] var. albida [Sant]. Please check this > link for our previous discussion on this ; > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Carissa$20congesta$20var.$20albida$20Neil$20Soares%7Csort:relevance/indiantreepix/AOGm5bADYQY/wmuM399rzYsJ > > With regards, > Neil Soares. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *Cc:* efloraofindia <[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh < > [email protected]>; Balkar Arya <[email protected]>; Neil Soares < > [email protected]>; promila chaturvedi < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 5:27 PM > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:35220] DV - 15MAY10 - 0308 :: ¿ Carissa > congesta ? > > Many thanks Garg ji. > Will make relevant changes in my flickr notes. > Regards. > Dinesh > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 4:39 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also pursue other threads in *Carissa carandas* > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/carissa/carissa-carandas> > > On 25 February 2016 at 16:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Dinesh ji. > As per WCSP <http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?name_id=34148>, > *Carissa** congesta* Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. 4: t. 1289 (1848) is a > syn. of *Carissa spinarum L., Mant. Pl. 2: 559 (1771).* > <http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do;jsessionid=5DAE4065AC6C6CA533656F6D0EA63417?name_id=34226> > You can see a large number of synonyms for this species at WCSP link > <http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/synonomy.do?name_id=34226> > > On 25 February 2016 at 16:02, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > > Many thanks Garg ji for resurfacing my post > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/IssNUvvJBl4/qHNnXE_-hAgJ>. > > The post > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/uo5Lgsz4vIA> > in eFI group that you have pointed, has keys provided by Gurcharan ji. He > concludes by saying "Things are not very clear seeing lot of variability > and confusion in literature but for me most features especially leaves and > young fruit go with C. carandas". > > There *is* lot of variability and confusion; status of *C. congesta* is > not clear. Let us hope some one sorting this genus comes forward and puts > his / her thoughts too. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:02 PM, JM Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think it should be *Carissa carandas* > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/carissa/carissa-carandas> > if we go by keys provided by Singh ji *as per efi thread* > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/uo5Lgsz4vIA> > : > > *C. carandas* > *C. spinarum* > 1. Lateral veins of leaf ca. 8 pairs 1. Lateral veins of leaf 3-5 > pairs > 2. Leaves 3.5-8 cm long 2. Leaves 2-5 cm long > 3. Leaf apex rounded, emarginate 3. Leaf apex acute or acuminate > to apiculate > 4. Fruit ellipsoid, 15-25 mm long. 4. Fruit subglobose, 5-12 mm > 5. Ripe fruit reddish-purple 5. Ripe fruit shining black > > > On Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:54:03 UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: > > Dear friends, > ID please ... looks like some species of Carissa, would it be *C. > congesta* ? > > > > Date/Time : May 15, 2010 at 3.08pm IST > Location Place : Veermata Jijabai Bhonsale Udyan (Nursery) > > Altitude : 13 m > GPS : 18°58'38.49"N, 72°50'17.86"E > > Habitat : garden > Type : ... > > Plant > Habit : shrub > Height : about 3 m > Length : - not a climber - > > Leaves > Type : simple, margin entire, slightly wavy, oppositely arranged, some > single, short petioled (about 3 - 5 mm) > Shape : oval, rounded at both ends > Size : about 2 x 1.5 inches > > Inflorescence > Type : terminal corymbs > Size : do not know > > Flowers > Size : do not know > Colour : do not know > Calyx : do not know > Bracts : - no bracts - > > Fruits > Type : berry > Shape : ellipsoid, rounded ends, faintly tipped. > Size : .about 1.5 - 2 cm > Seeds : do not know > > > Other Info > Fragrance : do not know > Pollinator : do not know > Uses : edible. > > > > Regards. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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