Thanks, Chadwell ji. On 13 November 2016 at 08:51, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, the information about P.crenulata being brought in by the British > and naturalising is not correct. Pyracantha crenulata is a wild species > *native > to the Himalaya* from Kashmir to SW China and Myanamar @ 1000-2400m in > shrubberies, open slopes & cultivated areas. Its fruits are typically > orange-red though dark red forms occur. > > It was not introduced by the British or became naturalised. There may > have been isolated introductions of cultivars of Pyracantha during the > British time or indeed since which might explain the specimen photographed > at Narkanda, IF it is an escape from cultivation or is being cultivated? I > do not know much about the ancestry of the various Pyracantha cultivars, > whether selections or hybrids. Pyracantha 'Orange Glow' apparently arose > as a chance seedling found in a garden in Holland around 1930. So it does > not seem feasible that it could have got into wider cultivation and thus > have been brought to India before Independence, IF this is thought to be > this? Pyracantha crenulata is not often cultivated in the UK. > > Collet in 'Flora Simlensis' did record this plant but he knew it as > Crataegus crenulata which he stated was found from the Sutlej to Bhutan but > failed to indicate > where it grew in or around Simla (as he normally did for most plants). As > it is rather a prominent shrub, then not easily missed. He said the > species was closely allied to one which was often trained against walls in > Britain with bright red fruits. There is no native Pyracantha in the UK. > The commonest species which naturalises there is P.coccinea a native of NE > Spain to N.Iran. There seem to be about 7 species, 4 from China. Some > think P.crenulata and P.coccinea may constitute the same species. > > In Bhutan P.crenulata grows at streamsides, the fruits red. > > I am not familiar with all the various cultivars and cannot distinguish > readily between the species, so am uncertain what the plant photographed > actually is. > > Stewart understood P.crenulata to be cultivated in Abbottabad and Rao > recorded it from one place in Kashmir (hence, I suspect the distribution > given). He felt that IF that was a wild specimen, it would represent a > Westerly extension of its range. > > On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 4:46:39 PM UTC+1, Anil Thakur wrote: > >> Pyracantha 'Orange Glow' >> or >> Pyracantha 'Orange Charmer' >> or >> Pyracantha crenulata 'Orange Glow' >> or >> Pyracantha angustifolia (native to Southwest China) >> >> Height: 3-4 feet >> October 23, 2016 >> Place: Narkanda, Shimla, India >> Altitude: 8700- 8800 feet >> >> -- >> With best Regards, >> >> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
