My posts with red fruits can also be seen on efi. Regards
On Nov 13, 2016 10:40 AM, "Anil Thakur" <[email protected]> wrote: > Respected Garg ji and Chadwell ji > Thank you for the detailed discussions. I had also posted it on Plant > Wealth of India as P. crenulata before posting on efi. > I have posted it on efi for discussion as deep orange colour of its > fruit was unique. When I checked for orange colour on the net, some > cultivars appeared. > I have seen thousands of different specimens of P. crenulata, but all had > dark red fruits. It occurs frequently in this part of Himalaya as a wild. > Specimen in this post was photographed near a small village temple. Only > 3-4 plants were there. They might have been cultivated??? > > Regards > > On Nov 13, 2016 9:16 AM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >> >> On 13 November 2016 at 08:51, [email protected] < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, the information about P.crenulata being brought in by the British >>> and naturalising is not correct. Pyracantha crenulata is a wild species >>> *native >>> to the Himalaya* from Kashmir to SW China and Myanamar @ 1000-2400m in >>> shrubberies, open slopes & cultivated areas. Its fruits are typically >>> orange-red though dark red forms occur. >>> >>> It was not introduced by the British or became naturalised. There may >>> have been isolated introductions of cultivars of Pyracantha during the >>> British time or indeed since which might explain the specimen photographed >>> at Narkanda, IF it is an escape from cultivation or is being cultivated? I >>> do not know much about the ancestry of the various Pyracantha cultivars, >>> whether selections or hybrids. Pyracantha 'Orange Glow' apparently arose >>> as a chance seedling found in a garden in Holland around 1930. So it does >>> not seem feasible that it could have got into wider cultivation and thus >>> have been brought to India before Independence, IF this is thought to be >>> this? Pyracantha crenulata is not often cultivated in the UK. >>> >>> Collet in 'Flora Simlensis' did record this plant but he knew it as >>> Crataegus crenulata which he stated was found from the Sutlej to Bhutan but >>> failed to indicate >>> where it grew in or around Simla (as he normally did for most plants). >>> As it is rather a prominent shrub, then not easily missed. He said the >>> species was closely allied to one which was often trained against walls in >>> Britain with bright red fruits. There is no native Pyracantha in the UK. >>> The commonest species which naturalises there is P.coccinea a native of NE >>> Spain to N.Iran. There seem to be about 7 species, 4 from China. Some >>> think P.crenulata and P.coccinea may constitute the same species. >>> >>> In Bhutan P.crenulata grows at streamsides, the fruits red. >>> >>> I am not familiar with all the various cultivars and cannot distinguish >>> readily between the species, so am uncertain what the plant photographed >>> actually is. >>> >>> Stewart understood P.crenulata to be cultivated in Abbottabad and Rao >>> recorded it from one place in Kashmir (hence, I suspect the distribution >>> given). He felt that IF that was a wild specimen, it would represent a >>> Westerly extension of its range. >>> >>> On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 4:46:39 PM UTC+1, Anil Thakur wrote: >>> >>>> Pyracantha 'Orange Glow' >>>> or >>>> Pyracantha 'Orange Charmer' >>>> or >>>> Pyracantha crenulata 'Orange Glow' >>>> or >>>> Pyracantha angustifolia (native to Southwest China) >>>> >>>> Height: 3-4 feet >>>> October 23, 2016 >>>> Place: Narkanda, Shimla, India >>>> Altitude: 8700- 8800 feet >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With best Regards, >>>> >>>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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