Just forgot to mention that yes, Amchis are around in himalayan region, some as a part of tibetan refugee and some illegal. But please remember that Dactylorhiza hatagirea atleast is also used in Indian traditional medicine. Pankaj
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Sir > > 1. As I see all pink flowers in this thread belong to Dactylorhiza > hatagirea. The tubers if collected from this plant then its ok they too are > Dactylorhiza. > > 2.The greenish white flower pic at the end is not clear but does look like > Dactylorhiza viridis (=Coeloglossum viride). If you have more pics I can > check, because in this particular pic, I cant get any glimpse of the > labellum. Just for your information Mr. Kishan Lal passed away recently. He > was an engineer by profession and a keen collector. Most of his orchids > were either identified by Jeewan and myself till 2008 (following which I > had cut off my connections with him).or by BSI. D. viridis colour varies > from pale green to green to even red. This is one species extremely > widespread and hence such variations are obvious. > > Thanks and regards > Pankaj > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:34 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> >> Date: 16 Jan 2017 5:59 a.m. >> Subject: Datylorhiza hatagirea sensu lato in HP & Uttarakhand >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> Cc: >> >> Aswal & Mehrotra in 'Flora of Lahaul-Spiti' (1999) found D.hatagirea to >> be common in grassy meadows on slopes >> at Khoksar. >> >> They observed that the tubers are an important ingredient of many >> Ayurvedic and Unani preparations and therefore >> collected by the local people for sale. >> >> Bor's specimen at Dehra Dun which had been identified as A.maculata is in >> fact D.hatagirea. A.maculata being a >> European species which does not occur in India. The plant reported by >> Aitchison in 1868 as A.maculata is probably >> A.hatagirea. >> >> Koelz (1979) found an attractive rose-coloured orchid common in the >> meadows of Lahaul, known in Tibetan as 'Wanglak' ( >> hand-shaped root) used by local doctors of Tibetan Medicine. This was >> only partially identified as Habernaria sp. Was this >> Gymnadenia orchidis or perhaps Dactylorhiza (and if so, D.hatagirea or >> D.kafiriana)? >> >> Collet in 'Flora Simlensis' (1921) also got it wrong (presumably >> following FBI) finding what he thought was Orchis latifolia >> which he said was the 'Marsh Orchis' of Britain in wet ground at Huttoo. >> Flower colour dull purple, the lip darker spotted. >> >> 'The Valley of Flowers' book lists Orchis latifolia (now Dactylorhiza >> hatagirea) and Orchis chusua (now Ponerorchis chusua). >> >> I am attaching 6 images: >> >> 1. A string of Dactylorhiza tubers having been illegally collected in >> H.P.; photographed on my behalf - I don't expect the >> Indian collectors (they were not local men) gathered them in a >> responsible way (which I believe amchis - local doctors of >> traditional medicine do). >> >> 2-4. Images taken by Krishan Lal at Koksar, Lahoul, H.P. of what he >> thought was D.hatagirea >> >> 5. Image of what he thought was Dactylorhiza viride - which Stewart >> listed as Coleloglossum viride (in the UK this >> plant is known as the 'Frog Orchid' - the flowers MOSTLY being green. >> Just taking a quick look, Krishan's image does >> not fit but we have members with much greater familiarity with >> Orchidaceae, who can comment more authoritatively. >> >> 6. Another image of what he thought was Dactylorhiza viride - which >> Stewart listed as Coeloglossum viride (in the UK this >> plant is known as the 'Frog Orchid' - the flowers MOSTLY being green. >> This seems more promising. Perhaps Krishan made >> a labelling error (which he did from time-to-time). >> >> Just supposing Krishan photos from Gulaba were taken where both >> Dactylorhiza hatagirea and Coeloglossum viride grew together, >> the POSSIBILITY of hybrids exists. *In the UK, C.viride is known to >> hybridise with a number of Dactylorhiza species.....* >> >> >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > ************************************************************ > ********************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Conservation Officer > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > *Residence*: > House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen > Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 <2483%207128> (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 > 9436 6251 <9436%206251> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 <2483%207194> > > -- ****************************************************** **************************************************************** *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* *Office*: Conservation Officer Orchid Conservation Section Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. *Residence*: House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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