Dear Tanay
The matter seems to be still open. The book tropical ornamentals: a guide by
W. Arthur Whistler mentions presence of interpetiolar stipules in I. casei,
whereas another site (I lost track) mentions stipules absent. I am not very
sure about second, because we think about different length of stipules but
not total absence.
    The main feature that goes in favour of I. casei is the leaves being
clearly elliptic-oblanceolate whereas they are lanceolate or
linear-lanceolate (in I. salicifolia, regarded as direct synonym of I. casei
or I. casei var. salicifolia). Also the leaves of I. casei are larger.



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On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Gurcharan ji,
> Did you check about the stipule matter  !! As far as I know *I casei*doesn't 
> not have stipules but all the pictures showed the presence of
> stipules.
> Regards
> Tanay
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Dinesh ji
>> Please have look at my third photograph. In midle flower under focus all
>> anthers are fallen. Lowermost has one anther only, similar to your
>> photograph.
>>
>>
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>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you very much Gurcharan ji for the clarity.
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is another evidence that our plant is not I. fulgens (syn: I.
>>>> salicifolia):
>>>>
>>>> http://www.finerareprints.com/print_detail.html?stock_no=20161
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.finerareprints.com/print_detail.html?stock_no=20161>
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>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have tried to search hard in the internet and books available with
>>>>> me. There are lot of photographs of I. casei, but hardly any of I. 
>>>>> fulgens.
>>>>> Finally I stumbled upon information that I. salicifolia is a synonym of I.
>>>>> fulgens, that put me to doubt, because then it meant leaves would be
>>>>> linear-lanceolate like salix. This photograph confirmed my doubt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/13766.Rubiaceae%20-%20Ixora%20fulgens.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that my plant (and that uploaded yesterday by Dinesh ji, and
>>>>> which we have been considering as I fulgens) is I. casei and not I 
>>>>> fulgens:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayjayc/2650294320/
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayjayc/2650294320/>
>>>>> Ixora fulgens is a different plant with much narrower leaves
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/13766.Rubiaceae%20-%20Ixora%20fulgens.htm>Your
>>>>> comments please
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:26 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Sir ,
>>>>>> As far as my knowledge extends I know that these two species of *
>>>>>> Ixora* can be differentiated by prescence or abscence of stipules. As
>>>>>> you plant has the stipules (stipulate) hence it is *Ixora fulgens*. I 
>>>>>> will still request you to check about this stipule  character from the
>>>>>> floras as you have lots of them with you, it will be very easy for you to
>>>>>> recheck the morphology from the literatures. Kindly let me know wether I 
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> right or wrong .
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>>> If stipules are deciding factor, then my second photograph clearly
>>>>>>> shows nearly 7-9 mm long interpetiolar stipule, triangular at base and
>>>>>>> narrowed above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Muthu ji for refreshing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Muthu Karthick 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also look on the subject head of 'Ixora for id 261109MK3'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:12 PM, tanay bose <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji,
>>>>>>>>>> I also think this plant is* Ixora fulgens* Roxb because I used to
>>>>>>>>>> have this plant in my terrace garden but later died.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly Ixora fulgens from Delhi growing as hedge in Khalsa
>>>>>>>>>>> College Campus, Delhi. Please note leaf with short petiole, scarlet 
>>>>>>>>>>> flowers
>>>>>>>>>>> with 25-35 cm long tube and acute corolla lobes. Please also 
>>>>>>>>>>> consider I.
>>>>>>>>>>> casei, a very close species.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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