Dear Gurcharan Ji, Its bit for me to get hold of the fine measurements from the photo !!! I think your assumption can be true !! And hopefully this is *Ixora case*i. Regards Tanay
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Today I found another Ixora in Herbal Garden that led me to rethink and > confirm more strongly that this plant is indeed I. casei. Ixora fulgens, I > found out has larger flowers with 15-17 mm long corolla lobes, whereas this > one has 9-11 mm long lobes. This leads me think that this plant is I. casei. > Please validate. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 7:06 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Gurcharan Ji, >> Thank you for updating me about the literature. As Leaf morphology is the >> point of identification then you assumption can be right !! >> Regards & Thanks >> Tanay >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dear Tanay >>> The matter seems to be still open. The book tropical ornamentals: a guide >>> by W. Arthur Whistler mentions presence of interpetiolar stipules in I. >>> casei, whereas another site (I lost track) mentions stipules absent. I am >>> not very sure about second, because we think about different length of >>> stipules but not total absence. >>> The main feature that goes in favour of I. casei is the leaves being >>> clearly elliptic-oblanceolate whereas they are lanceolate or >>> linear-lanceolate (in I. salicifolia, regarded as direct synonym of I. casei >>> or I. casei var. salicifolia). Also the leaves of I. casei are larger. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>>> Did you check about the stipule matter !! As far as I know *I >>>> casei*doesn't not have stipules but all the pictures showed the presence of >>>> stipules. >>>> Regards >>>> Tanay >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dinesh ji >>>>> Please have look at my third photograph. In midle flower under focus >>>>> all anthers are fallen. Lowermost has one anther only, similar to your >>>>> photograph. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much Gurcharan ji for the clarity. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is another evidence that our plant is not I. fulgens (syn: I. >>>>>>> salicifolia): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.finerareprints.com/print_detail.html?stock_no=20161 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.finerareprints.com/print_detail.html?stock_no=20161> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have tried to search hard in the internet and books available with >>>>>>>> me. There are lot of photographs of I. casei, but hardly any of I. >>>>>>>> fulgens. >>>>>>>> Finally I stumbled upon information that I. salicifolia is a synonym >>>>>>>> of I. >>>>>>>> fulgens, that put me to doubt, because then it meant leaves would be >>>>>>>> linear-lanceolate like salix. This photograph confirmed my doubt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/13766.Rubiaceae%20-%20Ixora%20fulgens.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think that my plant (and that uploaded yesterday by Dinesh ji, and >>>>>>>> which we have been considering as I fulgens) is I. casei and not I >>>>>>>> fulgens: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayjayc/2650294320/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayjayc/2650294320/> >>>>>>>> Ixora fulgens is a different plant with much narrower leaves >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/13766.Rubiaceae%20-%20Ixora%20fulgens.htm>Your >>>>>>>> comments please >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:26 AM, tanay bose <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Sir , >>>>>>>>> As far as my knowledge extends I know that these two species of * >>>>>>>>> Ixora* can be differentiated by prescence or abscence of stipules. >>>>>>>>> As you plant has the stipules (stipulate) hence it is *Ixora >>>>>>>>> fulgens* . I will still request you to check about this stipule >>>>>>>>> character from the floras as you have lots of them with you, it will >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> very easy for you to recheck the morphology from the literatures. >>>>>>>>> Kindly let >>>>>>>>> me know wether I am right or wrong . >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>>>> If stipules are deciding factor, then my second photograph clearly >>>>>>>>>> shows nearly 7-9 mm long interpetiolar stipule, triangular at base >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> narrowed above. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Muthu ji for refreshing >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Muthu Karthick < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also look on the subject head of 'Ixora for id 261109MK3' >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:12 PM, tanay bose < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think this plant is* Ixora fulgens* Roxb because I used >>>>>>>>>>>>> to have this plant in my terrace garden but later died. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly Ixora fulgens from Delhi growing as hedge in Khalsa >>>>>>>>>>>>>> College Campus, Delhi. Please note leaf with short petiole, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scarlet flowers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with 25-35 cm long tube and acute corolla lobes. Please also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider I. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> casei, a very close species. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanay Bose >>>>>>>>>>>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>>>>>>>>>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>>>>>>>>>>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Muthu Karthick, N >>>>>>>>>>>> Junior Research Fellow >>>>>>>>>>>> Care Earth Trust >>>>>>>>>>>> Chennai - 61 >>>>>>>>>>>> www.careearthtrust.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Tanay Bose >>>>>>>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>>>>>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>>>>>>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tanay Bose >>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tanay Bose >> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >> 9830439691(Mobile) >> 9674221362 (Mobile) >> >> > > > -- Tanay Bose +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) 9830439691(Mobile) 9674221362 (Mobile) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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