Today I found another Ixora in Herbal Garden that led me to rethink and confirm more strongly that this plant is indeed I. casei. Ixora fulgens, I found out has larger flowers with 15-17 mm long corolla lobes, whereas this one has 9-11 mm long lobes. This leads me think that this plant is I. casei. Please validate.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 7:06 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Gurcharan Ji, > Thank you for updating me about the literature. As Leaf morphology is the > point of identification then you assumption can be right !! > Regards & Thanks > Tanay > > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Tanay >> The matter seems to be still open. The book tropical ornamentals: a guide >> by W. Arthur Whistler mentions presence of interpetiolar stipules in I. >> casei, whereas another site (I lost track) mentions stipules absent. I am >> not very sure about second, because we think about different length of >> stipules but not total absence. >> The main feature that goes in favour of I. casei is the leaves being >> clearly elliptic-oblanceolate whereas they are lanceolate or >> linear-lanceolate (in I. salicifolia, regarded as direct synonym of I. casei >> or I. casei var. salicifolia). Also the leaves of I. casei are larger. >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>> Did you check about the stipule matter !! As far as I know *I >>> casei*doesn't not have stipules but all the pictures showed the presence of >>> stipules. >>> Regards >>> Tanay >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dinesh ji >>>> Please have look at my third photograph. In midle flower under focus all >>>> anthers are fallen. Lowermost has one anther only, similar to your >>>> photograph. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you very much Gurcharan ji for the clarity. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Here is another evidence that our plant is not I. fulgens (syn: I. >>>>>> salicifolia): >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.finerareprints.com/print_detail.html?stock_no=20161 >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.finerareprints.com/print_detail.html?stock_no=20161> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have tried to search hard in the internet and books available with >>>>>>> me. There are lot of photographs of I. casei, but hardly any of I. >>>>>>> fulgens. >>>>>>> Finally I stumbled upon information that I. salicifolia is a synonym of >>>>>>> I. >>>>>>> fulgens, that put me to doubt, because then it meant leaves would be >>>>>>> linear-lanceolate like salix. This photograph confirmed my doubt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/13766.Rubiaceae%20-%20Ixora%20fulgens.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that my plant (and that uploaded yesterday by Dinesh ji, and >>>>>>> which we have been considering as I fulgens) is I. casei and not I >>>>>>> fulgens: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayjayc/2650294320/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayjayc/2650294320/> >>>>>>> Ixora fulgens is a different plant with much narrower leaves >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/13766.Rubiaceae%20-%20Ixora%20fulgens.htm>Your >>>>>>> comments please >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:26 AM, tanay bose >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Sir , >>>>>>>> As far as my knowledge extends I know that these two species of * >>>>>>>> Ixora* can be differentiated by prescence or abscence of stipules. >>>>>>>> As you plant has the stipules (stipulate) hence it is *Ixora >>>>>>>> fulgens* . I will still request you to check about this stipule >>>>>>>> character from the floras as you have lots of them with you, it will >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> very easy for you to recheck the morphology from the literatures. >>>>>>>> Kindly let >>>>>>>> me know wether I am right or wrong . >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>>> If stipules are deciding factor, then my second photograph clearly >>>>>>>>> shows nearly 7-9 mm long interpetiolar stipule, triangular at base and >>>>>>>>> narrowed above. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Muthu ji for refreshing >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Muthu Karthick < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also look on the subject head of 'Ixora for id 261109MK3' >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:12 PM, tanay bose < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>>>>>>>>>>> I also think this plant is* Ixora fulgens* Roxb because I used >>>>>>>>>>>> to have this plant in my terrace garden but later died. >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly Ixora fulgens from Delhi growing as hedge in Khalsa >>>>>>>>>>>>> College Campus, Delhi. Please note leaf with short petiole, >>>>>>>>>>>>> scarlet flowers >>>>>>>>>>>>> with 25-35 cm long tube and acute corolla lobes. Please also >>>>>>>>>>>>> consider I. >>>>>>>>>>>>> casei, a very close species. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Tanay Bose >>>>>>>>>>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>>>>>>>>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>>>>>>>>>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Muthu Karthick, N >>>>>>>>>>> Junior Research Fellow >>>>>>>>>>> Care Earth Trust >>>>>>>>>>> Chennai - 61 >>>>>>>>>>> www.careearthtrust.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Tanay Bose >>>>>>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>>>>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>>>>>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tanay Bose >>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Tanay Bose > +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) > 9830439691(Mobile) > 9674221362 (Mobile) > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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