Dear Gurcharan Ji,
Thank you for updating me about the literature. As Leaf morphology is the
point of identification then you assumption can be right !!
Regards & Thanks
Tanay

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Tanay
> The matter seems to be still open. The book tropical ornamentals: a guide
> by W. Arthur Whistler mentions presence of interpetiolar stipules in I.
> casei, whereas another site (I lost track) mentions stipules absent. I am
> not very sure about second, because we think about different length of
> stipules but not total absence.
>     The main feature that goes in favour of I. casei is the leaves being
> clearly elliptic-oblanceolate whereas they are lanceolate or
> linear-lanceolate (in I. salicifolia, regarded as direct synonym of I. casei
> or I. casei var. salicifolia). Also the leaves of I. casei are larger.
>
>
>
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> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Gurcharan ji,
>> Did you check about the stipule matter  !! As far as I know *I casei*doesn't 
>> not have stipules but all the pictures showed the presence of
>> stipules.
>> Regards
>> Tanay
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Dinesh ji
>>> Please have look at my third photograph. In midle flower under focus all
>>> anthers are fallen. Lowermost has one anther only, similar to your
>>> photograph.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you very much Gurcharan ji for the clarity.
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here is another evidence that our plant is not I. fulgens (syn: I.
>>>>> salicifolia):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.finerareprints.com/print_detail.html?stock_no=20161
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.finerareprints.com/print_detail.html?stock_no=20161>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried to search hard in the internet and books available with
>>>>>> me. There are lot of photographs of I. casei, but hardly any of I. 
>>>>>> fulgens.
>>>>>> Finally I stumbled upon information that I. salicifolia is a synonym of 
>>>>>> I.
>>>>>> fulgens, that put me to doubt, because then it meant leaves would be
>>>>>> linear-lanceolate like salix. This photograph confirmed my doubt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/13766.Rubiaceae%20-%20Ixora%20fulgens.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that my plant (and that uploaded yesterday by Dinesh ji, and
>>>>>> which we have been considering as I fulgens) is I. casei and not I 
>>>>>> fulgens:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayjayc/2650294320/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayjayc/2650294320/>
>>>>>> Ixora fulgens is a different plant with much narrower leaves
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/13766.Rubiaceae%20-%20Ixora%20fulgens.htm>Your
>>>>>> comments please
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:26 AM, tanay bose 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Sir ,
>>>>>>> As far as my knowledge extends I know that these two species of *
>>>>>>> Ixora* can be differentiated by prescence or abscence of stipules.
>>>>>>> As you plant has the stipules (stipulate) hence it is *Ixora fulgens
>>>>>>> * . I will still request you to check about this stipule  character
>>>>>>> from the floras as you have lots of them with you, it will be very easy 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> you to recheck the morphology from the literatures. Kindly let me know
>>>>>>> wether I am right or wrong .
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Gurcharan Singh <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>>>> If stipules are deciding factor, then my second photograph clearly
>>>>>>>> shows nearly 7-9 mm long interpetiolar stipule, triangular at base and
>>>>>>>> narrowed above.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Gurcharan Singh <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Muthu ji for refreshing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also look on the subject head of 'Ixora for id 261109MK3'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:12 PM, tanay bose <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji,
>>>>>>>>>>> I also think this plant is* Ixora fulgens* Roxb because I used
>>>>>>>>>>> to have this plant in my terrace garden but later died.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly Ixora fulgens from Delhi growing as hedge in Khalsa
>>>>>>>>>>>> College Campus, Delhi. Please note leaf with short petiole, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> scarlet flowers
>>>>>>>>>>>> with 25-35 cm long tube and acute corolla lobes. Please also 
>>>>>>>>>>>> consider I.
>>>>>>>>>>>> casei, a very close species.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
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