Thank you Rakesh ji and Garg ji for this discussion. I am not much confident to comment in this. Somehow I have always got confused when I see these plants with variations - especially when they interchange their habit - or may be I mistake them so. I am used to see *Rungia pectinata* as an erect herb with wiry stems / branches, typically 1.5 feet or so, and sometimes as tall as half a metre or so, growing in small colonies. I suspect having seen *Rungia pectinata* grow prostrate in open barren ground - though I could be mistaking the species.
Among the larger ones, I think there is one *Rungia elegans* too. I assume it is not included in this discussion, because it may not be posing any confusion. Regards. Dinesh On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 1:34 PM dr.rakesh Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > I doubt the '3 rows' of sterile bracts . So far it is only 2 rows in all 3 > types . > I checked my collections from 2015 . > Larger one is J. repens (Rungia repens ) , two smaller ones need to be > sorted out . > We agree on this . > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 1:05 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Description as available for Rungia parviflora >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=309&cat=7> is >> below: >> A small, soft annual herb. leaves membranous, variable, ovate, lanceolate >> or linear- spathulate. flowers in small spikes; barren and flowering bracts >> very different, the former in 3 rows on one side of the spike, thick, >> elliptic, mucronate; the later with the flowers on the other side, >> conspicuously hyaline- margined, ovate or orbicular- ciliate, calyx- lobes >> 5, corolla blue. >> >> India biodiversity Portal gives the following description for *Rungia >> parviflora*: >> Diffuse or ascending herbs. Leaves elliptic or elliptic-ovate, 2 by 1 cm, >> base and apex acute, lateral veins c. 3 pairs. Spikes c. 15 mm long; floral >> bracts glabrescent; corolla pinkish-white. Capsule ellipsoid. Flowering >> and fruiting: March-April. Wastelands in the plains. Peninsular India and >> Sri Lanka >> >> *Rungia pectinata* (Linnaeus) Nees in A. Candolle in Flora of China >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022026>: >> Herbs 20-50 cm tall, annual or perennial. Stem basally prostrate and >> rooting at nodes then erect, minutely pubescent. Petiole 0-7 mm; leaf blade >> oblong-elliptic, 1-4 × 0.4-1.4 cm, glabrous except for a few trichomes >> along veins, secondary veins ca. 4 on each side of midvein, base cuneate >> and decurrent onto petiole, margin entire, apex acute. Spikes axillary or >> terminal, 0.5-2 cm, 1-sided, solitary or sometimes 2 or 3 compound; bracts >> dimorphic; sterile bracts green, elliptic, ca. 4 × 0.7 mm, glabrous, apex >> acute; fertile bracts circular to obovate, 4-5 × ca. 2 mm, pubescent, >> margin broadly hyaline, apex obtuse to rounded to emarginate and >> mucronulate; bracteoles elliptic, 2-3 mm, margin ciliate, apex 2-cleft and >> subacute. Calyx colorless, pubescent; lobes linear-lanceolate, ca. 3 × 0.5 >> mm, margin narrowly hyaline, apex mucronulate. Corolla blue or white, ca. 5 >> mm, outside pubescent; lower lip 3-lobed, lobes triangular; upper lip >> ovate, 1-2 mm, apex emarginate. Staminal filaments glabrous. Ovary >> glabrous. Capsule ellipsoid, ca. 2.5 mm, glabrous, 2-4-seeded, apex >> apiculate. Seeds orbicular in outline, ca. 1 mm in diam., minutely >> verrucose. Fl. Nov-Jan, fr. Jan-Apr. >> >> But I am unable to find out the clear cut difference between the two from >> the above. >> >> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 10:25, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Checklist of Nepal, gives *Rungia parviflora* (Retz.) Nees as a syn. of >>> *Rungia >>> pectinata* (L.) Nees >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200022026> >>> Flora of Pakistan did not mention any Rungia species. >>> Flora of China >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128875> has >>> only *Rungia pectinata* (Linnaeus) Nees >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022026> out >>> of these. >>> Pl. see FOC illustration >>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=119450&flora_id=2> >>> for this. >>> >>> As per Dr. Wood (who changed the names from Rungia to Justicia)" >>> *Rungia muralis* is usually seen as a variety of *Justicia parviflora*. >>> I have made no combinations for the varieties as they are a chaos and need >>> a thorough revision - most are probably of no value. >>> >>> Thus, from the above discussions, there are broadly two complexes, one >>> related to *R. pectinata* (syn: *Rungia parviflora* var. *pectinata* >>> (L.) C. B. Cl.) and* Rungia parviflora* (*Bracts dimorphic*) and other >>> related to *R. repens* (*Bracts uniform*). >>> >>> Thus, Rakesh ji's posted species in this thread with uniform bracts >>> should be *R. repens* >>> >>> However, we have to still find keys and differences between *R. >>> pectinata* (syn: *Rungia parviflora* var. *pectinata* (L.) C. B. Cl.) >>> and* Rungia parviflora* (*Bracts dimorphic*) >>> >>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 10:12, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I check the related species in Flora of Peninsular India, but could not >>>> find the keys between the three species as per >>>> Rungia pectinata >>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=310&cat=7> >>>> Rungia repens >>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=311&cat=7> >>>> Rungia parviflora >>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=309&cat=7> >>>> Rungia muralis >>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=308&cat=7> >>>> >>>> Only description is available for Rungia parviflora >>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=309&cat=7> >>>> as >>>> below: >>>> A small, soft annual herb. leaves membranous, variable, ovate, >>>> lanceolate or linear- spathulate. flowers in small spikes; barren and >>>> flowering bracts very different, the former in 3 rows on one side of the >>>> spike, thick, elliptic, mucronate; the later with the flowers on the other >>>> side, conspicuously hyaline- margined, ovate or orbicular- ciliate, calyx- >>>> lobes 5, corolla blue. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 09:56, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Rakesh ji. >>>>> We will certainly go through the descriptions. >>>>> But before that we have to find *keys* between the three species., in >>>>> differences sources of literature. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 19:53, dr.rakesh Singh < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We need to have descriptions of species . >>>>>> Garg sir , the keys you have quoted are not enough . >>>>>> For one , leaf is highly variable in size , so is petiole . >>>>>> Two , bracts in all 3 are having papery white margin . While in >>>>>> bigger one margins do not overlap and they show prominently in >>>>>> contrasting >>>>>> colors , in two smaller ones bracts overlap and white papery margin is >>>>>> not >>>>>> visible on backside , though visible on side of flowers . >>>>>> Attached photos belong to larger one , spike going up to 20 cm long . >>>>>> Habit prostrate , erect when crowded . >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 18:16 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Rakesh ji, in a recent thread, has expressed doubts about clarity in >>>>>>> these species in efi site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So let us look at these afresh with our literature. >>>>>>> Flora of Madhya Pradesh: Chhatarpur and Damoh (Description) >>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=nC-TikpU0sEC&pg=PA338&dq=Justicia+pectinata+%2B+INdia&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Pr-8UPaoMNCzrAfnkoDYDg&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Justicia%20pectinata%20%2B%20INdia&f=false> >>>>>>> gives >>>>>>> the following keys: >>>>>>> 1a. Sterile and fertile bracts dissimilar. Upper lip of Corolla >>>>>>> acute. Spikes 2.5-5 cm- *R. pectinata* >>>>>>> 1b. Sterile and fertile bracts similar. Upper lip of Corolla >>>>>>> emarginate. Spikes 2.5-5 cm- *R. repens* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Flora Of Guntur District: Andhra Pradesh, India (Description) >>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=1kHNgLyXbJUC&pg=PA273&dq=Justicia+pectinata+%2B+INdia&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Pr-8UPaoMNCzrAfnkoDYDg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Justicia%20pectinata%20%2B%20INdia&f=false> >>>>>>> gives >>>>>>> the following keys: >>>>>>> 1a. Bracts dimorphic. Fertile bracts villous, petiole ca. 2 cm long- *R. >>>>>>> pectinata* >>>>>>> 1b. Bracts uniform. 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