Yes Garg ji, *Rungia elegans* flowers as well as bracts spike are quite stout - so it can only be mistaken by some, but certainly far from confusion. Regards. Dinesh
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:18 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Dinesh ji. > Rungia elegans was causing confusion with lot of them earlier identified > as R. pectinata. > I am correcting them now one by one. Pl. check. > > > On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 14:02, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you Rakesh ji and Garg ji for this discussion. >> >> I am not much confident to comment in this. Somehow I have always got >> confused when I see these plants with variations - especially when they >> interchange their habit - or may be I mistake them so. I am used to see >> *Rungia >> pectinata* as an erect herb with wiry stems / branches, typically 1.5 >> feet or so, and sometimes as tall as half a metre or so, growing in small >> colonies. I suspect having seen *Rungia pectinata* grow prostrate in >> open barren ground - though I could be mistaking the species. >> >> Among the larger ones, I think there is one *Rungia elegans* too. I >> assume it is not included in this discussion, because it may not be posing >> any confusion. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 1:34 PM dr.rakesh Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I doubt the '3 rows' of sterile bracts . So far it is only 2 rows in all >>> 3 types . >>> I checked my collections from 2015 . >>> Larger one is J. repens (Rungia repens ) , two smaller ones need to be >>> sorted out . >>> We agree on this . >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 1:05 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Description as available for Rungia parviflora >>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=309&cat=7> >>>> is >>>> below: >>>> A small, soft annual herb. leaves membranous, variable, ovate, >>>> lanceolate or linear- spathulate. flowers in small spikes; barren and >>>> flowering bracts very different, the former in 3 rows on one side of the >>>> spike, thick, elliptic, mucronate; the later with the flowers on the other >>>> side, conspicuously hyaline- margined, ovate or orbicular- ciliate, calyx- >>>> lobes 5, corolla blue. >>>> >>>> India biodiversity Portal gives the following description for *Rungia >>>> parviflora*: >>>> Diffuse or ascending herbs. Leaves elliptic or elliptic-ovate, 2 by 1 >>>> cm, base and apex acute, lateral veins c. 3 pairs. Spikes c. 15 mm long; >>>> floral bracts glabrescent; corolla pinkish-white. Capsule ellipsoid. >>>> Flowering and fruiting: March-April. Wastelands in the plains. Peninsular >>>> India and Sri Lanka >>>> >>>> *Rungia pectinata* (Linnaeus) Nees in A. Candolle in Flora of China >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022026>: >>>> Herbs 20-50 cm tall, annual or perennial. Stem basally prostrate and >>>> rooting at nodes then erect, minutely pubescent. Petiole 0-7 mm; leaf blade >>>> oblong-elliptic, 1-4 × 0.4-1.4 cm, glabrous except for a few trichomes >>>> along veins, secondary veins ca. 4 on each side of midvein, base cuneate >>>> and decurrent onto petiole, margin entire, apex acute. Spikes axillary or >>>> terminal, 0.5-2 cm, 1-sided, solitary or sometimes 2 or 3 compound; bracts >>>> dimorphic; sterile bracts green, elliptic, ca. 4 × 0.7 mm, glabrous, apex >>>> acute; fertile bracts circular to obovate, 4-5 × ca. 2 mm, pubescent, >>>> margin broadly hyaline, apex obtuse to rounded to emarginate and >>>> mucronulate; bracteoles elliptic, 2-3 mm, margin ciliate, apex 2-cleft and >>>> subacute. Calyx colorless, pubescent; lobes linear-lanceolate, ca. 3 × 0.5 >>>> mm, margin narrowly hyaline, apex mucronulate. Corolla blue or white, ca. 5 >>>> mm, outside pubescent; lower lip 3-lobed, lobes triangular; upper lip >>>> ovate, 1-2 mm, apex emarginate. Staminal filaments glabrous. Ovary >>>> glabrous. Capsule ellipsoid, ca. 2.5 mm, glabrous, 2-4-seeded, apex >>>> apiculate. Seeds orbicular in outline, ca. 1 mm in diam., minutely >>>> verrucose. Fl. Nov-Jan, fr. Jan-Apr. >>>> >>>> But I am unable to find out the clear cut difference between the two >>>> from the above. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 10:25, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Checklist of Nepal, gives *Rungia parviflora* (Retz.) Nees as a syn. >>>>> of *Rungia pectinata* (L.) Nees >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200022026> >>>>> Flora of Pakistan did not mention any Rungia species. >>>>> Flora of China >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128875> >>>>> has only *Rungia pectinata* (Linnaeus) Nees >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022026> out >>>>> of these. >>>>> Pl. see FOC illustration >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=119450&flora_id=2> >>>>> for this. >>>>> >>>>> As per Dr. Wood (who changed the names from Rungia to Justicia)" >>>>> *Rungia muralis* is usually seen as a variety of *Justicia parviflora*. >>>>> I have made no combinations for the varieties as they are a chaos and need >>>>> a thorough revision - most are probably of no value. >>>>> >>>>> Thus, from the above discussions, there are broadly two complexes, one >>>>> related to *R. pectinata* (syn: *Rungia parviflora* var. *pectinata* >>>>> (L.) C. B. Cl.) and* Rungia parviflora* (*Bracts dimorphic*) and >>>>> other related to *R. repens* (*Bracts uniform*). >>>>> >>>>> Thus, Rakesh ji's posted species in this thread with uniform bracts >>>>> should be *R. repens* >>>>> >>>>> However, we have to still find keys and differences between *R. >>>>> pectinata* (syn: *Rungia parviflora* var. *pectinata* (L.) C. B. Cl.) >>>>> and* Rungia parviflora* (*Bracts dimorphic*) >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 10:12, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I check the related species in Flora of Peninsular India, but could >>>>>> not find the keys between the three species as per >>>>>> Rungia pectinata >>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=310&cat=7> >>>>>> Rungia repens >>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=311&cat=7> >>>>>> Rungia parviflora >>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=309&cat=7> >>>>>> Rungia muralis >>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=308&cat=7> >>>>>> >>>>>> Only description is available for Rungia parviflora >>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=309&cat=7> >>>>>> as >>>>>> below: >>>>>> A small, soft annual herb. leaves membranous, variable, ovate, >>>>>> lanceolate or linear- spathulate. flowers in small spikes; barren and >>>>>> flowering bracts very different, the former in 3 rows on one side of the >>>>>> spike, thick, elliptic, mucronate; the later with the flowers on the >>>>>> other >>>>>> side, conspicuously hyaline- margined, ovate or orbicular- ciliate, >>>>>> calyx- >>>>>> lobes 5, corolla blue. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 09:56, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, Rakesh ji. >>>>>>> We will certainly go through the descriptions. >>>>>>> But before that we have to find *keys* between the three species., >>>>>>> in differences sources of literature. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 19:53, dr.rakesh Singh < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We need to have descriptions of species . >>>>>>>> Garg sir , the keys you have quoted are not enough . >>>>>>>> For one , leaf is highly variable in size , so is petiole . >>>>>>>> Two , bracts in all 3 are having papery white margin . While in >>>>>>>> bigger one margins do not overlap and they show prominently in >>>>>>>> contrasting >>>>>>>> colors , in two smaller ones bracts overlap and white papery margin is >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> visible on backside , though visible on side of flowers . >>>>>>>> Attached photos belong to larger one , spike going up to 20 cm long >>>>>>>> . Habit prostrate , erect when crowded . >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 18:16 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rakesh ji, in a recent thread, has expressed doubts about clarity >>>>>>>>> in these species in efi site. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So let us look at these afresh with our literature. >>>>>>>>> Flora of Madhya Pradesh: Chhatarpur and Damoh (Description) >>>>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=nC-TikpU0sEC&pg=PA338&dq=Justicia+pectinata+%2B+INdia&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Pr-8UPaoMNCzrAfnkoDYDg&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Justicia%20pectinata%20%2B%20INdia&f=false> >>>>>>>>> gives >>>>>>>>> the following keys: >>>>>>>>> 1a. Sterile and fertile bracts dissimilar. Upper lip of Corolla >>>>>>>>> acute. Spikes 2.5-5 cm- *R. pectinata* >>>>>>>>> 1b. Sterile and fertile bracts similar. Upper lip of Corolla >>>>>>>>> emarginate. Spikes 2.5-5 cm- *R. repens* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Flora Of Guntur District: Andhra Pradesh, India (Description) >>>>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=1kHNgLyXbJUC&pg=PA273&dq=Justicia+pectinata+%2B+INdia&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Pr-8UPaoMNCzrAfnkoDYDg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Justicia%20pectinata%20%2B%20INdia&f=false> >>>>>>>>> gives >>>>>>>>> the following keys: >>>>>>>>> 1a. Bracts dimorphic. Fertile bracts villous, petiole ca. 2 cm >>>>>>>>> long- *R. pectinata* >>>>>>>>> 1b. Bracts uniform. 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