Thanks.

Regards,
Ashwini

On Thu, 9 Apr, 2020, 4:22 PM Tabish, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry, never checked the smell. After identifying it as Viola indica, was
> regretting not doing so. But the flower size agrees, 1.5-2 cm.
>   Tabish
> -------------------------------------------
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>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:14 PM Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Tabish ji. Do you remember if your flowers had aroma?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ashwini
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Apr, 2020, 4:12 PM Tabish, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately not. But India Biodiversity Portal
>>> <https://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/252218> also has a
>>> description. Also, the first image looks a bit different, I think, just
>>> because the petals have curled back - probably a more mature flower. I
>>> included this picture because the spur is partly visible here. This picture
>>> is of the same group of plants that we found in Dhanaulti, and was taken at
>>> the same time as the second pic.
>>>   I attach another one with the spur visible.
>>>    Tabish
>>> -------------------------------------------
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 3:23 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>>>> Do you have any other literature on Viola indica, other than *Flowers
>>>> of the Himalaya* by Polunin and Stainton ?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 14:02, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Ashwini ji.
>>>>> This spur appears a bit hooked and interesting. Book says spur to 1
>>>>> cm- I think meaning up to 1 cm.
>>>>> Pl. post corresponding leaves and flower front view.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 13:43, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have checked that already and our flowers never have a spur longer
>>>>>> than 6mm unless I am measuring incorrectly. If someone can guide me how 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> measure the spur correctly, I can still find a couple of flowers and
>>>>>> measure again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our flowers are *not fragrant* as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attaching side view of the spur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 13:35, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot, Ashwini ji.
>>>>>>> I think *Large flowers *with *stout** hooked spur *to 1 cm, may be
>>>>>>> the key.
>>>>>>> So we have to see the clear view of the spur.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 13:16, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Garg,
>>>>>>>> *Flore Simlensis* makes no mention of it but *Flowers of the
>>>>>>>> Himalaya* by Polunin and Stainton does but briefly. Attaching both
>>>>>>>> for reference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-2020, at 12:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Ashwini ji,
>>>>>>>> Don't you have the keys and details in the books you may be having
>>>>>>>> like Flora simlensis etc. ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 11:16, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I am unable to find much information on *Viola
>>>>>>>>> indica* as well. Tabish ji’s flower looks a lot like our flowers
>>>>>>>>> here (which we have been discussing under *V. pilosa*).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 07-Apr-2020, at 12:09 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>>>>>>>>> I have doubts about the 1st image. I am afraid it may be Viola
>>>>>>>>> pilosa
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have side view of the 2nd image ? If so, pl. post.
>>>>>>>>> Do you have the keys between say Viola indica
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-indica>
>>>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>>>> Viola pilosa
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa>/
>>>>>>>>> Viola canescens
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-canescens>
>>>>>>>>>  ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Ashwini ji,
>>>>>>>>> Do you have the keys between say Viola indica
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-indica>
>>>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>>>> Viola pilosa
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa>/
>>>>>>>>> Viola canescens
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-canescens>
>>>>>>>>>  ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I could not find them on net.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found only 2 specimen of Viola indica
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-indica>
>>>>>>>>>  in
>>>>>>>>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/7296353>, but here also
>>>>>>>>> flowers are not clear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441437200103o0MlGX1JPP3bIgHm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2455167%2Fformat%2Flarge
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>> From: Tabish <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 16:37
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:346550] Viola indica from Dhanaulti,
>>>>>>>>> Uttarakhand
>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Viola indica* from Dhanaulti, Uttarakhand
>>>>>>>>> found blooming in April.
>>>>>>>>>   Cheers!
>>>>>>>>>   Tabish
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> <Viola indica-2.jpg><Viola indica-1.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
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>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
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>>>>> India'.
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With regards,
>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>
>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>
>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
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>>>>
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>>>> India'.
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