Not matching, odour, size and the stipules which are described as:

*stipules lanceolate-ovate, margin entire, apex acuminate, persistent,*

otherwise it matches our flowers here.


On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 16:42, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with your id as spur appears to be longer.
>
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 16:12, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately not. But India Biodiversity Portal
>> <https://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/252218> also has a
>> description. Also, the first image looks a bit different, I think, just
>> because the petals have curled back - probably a more mature flower. I
>> included this picture because the spur is partly visible here. This picture
>> is of the same group of plants that we found in Dhanaulti, and was taken at
>> the same time as the second pic.
>>   I attach another one with the spur visible.
>>    Tabish
>> -------------------------------------------
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>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 3:23 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>>> Do you have any other literature on Viola indica, other than *Flowers
>>> of the Himalaya* by Polunin and Stainton ?
>>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 14:02, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Ashwini ji.
>>>> This spur appears a bit hooked and interesting. Book says spur to 1 cm-
>>>> I think meaning up to 1 cm.
>>>> Pl. post corresponding leaves and flower front view.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 13:43, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have checked that already and our flowers never have a spur longer
>>>>> than 6mm unless I am measuring incorrectly. If someone can guide me how to
>>>>> measure the spur correctly, I can still find a couple of flowers and
>>>>> measure again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our flowers are *not fragrant* as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Attaching side view of the spur.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 13:35, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot, Ashwini ji.
>>>>>> I think *Large flowers *with *stout** hooked spur *to 1 cm, may be
>>>>>> the key.
>>>>>> So we have to see the clear view of the spur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 13:16, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Garg,
>>>>>>> *Flore Simlensis* makes no mention of it but *Flowers of the
>>>>>>> Himalaya* by Polunin and Stainton does but briefly. Attaching both
>>>>>>> for reference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-2020, at 12:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Ashwini ji,
>>>>>>> Don't you have the keys and details in the books you may be having
>>>>>>> like Flora simlensis etc. ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 11:16, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I am unable to find much information on *Viola
>>>>>>>> indica* as well. Tabish ji’s flower looks a lot like our flowers
>>>>>>>> here (which we have been discussing under *V. pilosa*).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 07-Apr-2020, at 12:09 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>>>>>>>> I have doubts about the 1st image. I am afraid it may be Viola
>>>>>>>> pilosa
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa>
>>>>>>>> Do you have side view of the 2nd image ? If so, pl. post.
>>>>>>>> Do you have the keys between say Viola indica
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-indica>
>>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>>> Viola pilosa
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa>/
>>>>>>>> Viola canescens
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-canescens>
>>>>>>>>  ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Ashwini ji,
>>>>>>>> Do you have the keys between say Viola indica
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-indica>
>>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>>> Viola pilosa
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa>/
>>>>>>>> Viola canescens
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-canescens>
>>>>>>>>  ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could not find them on net.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found only 2 specimen of Viola indica
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-indica>
>>>>>>>>  in
>>>>>>>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/7296353>, but here also flowers
>>>>>>>> are not clear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441437200103o0MlGX1JPP3bIgHm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2455167%2Fformat%2Flarge
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>> From: Tabish <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 16:37
>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:346550] Viola indica from Dhanaulti,
>>>>>>>> Uttarakhand
>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Viola indica* from Dhanaulti, Uttarakhand
>>>>>>>> found blooming in April.
>>>>>>>>   Cheers!
>>>>>>>>   Tabish
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>>
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