No Tabish, latest suggestion is Malva pamiroalaica Iljin . Please check the mail. Thank you. Saroj Kasaju
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 11:22 pm, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > It does look like > * Malva verticillata * > See the images and herbaria here: > > http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:561971-1 > It is found in the Himalayas too. Has fascicled pinkish flowers. > Tabish > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:40 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear Tabish, >> >> Please check and do the needful. >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> Forwarded Conversation >> Subject: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >> ------------------------ >> >> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:52 PM >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Dear Members , >> >> Sharing some pictures for ID shot in Nubra Valley on 21 August 2014 at >> 11000 ft. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> ---------- >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:07 PM >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> Malva sp. (Malvaceae). >> Please compare with images in *eFI* >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-neglecta> >> . >> Elevation suggest M. neglecta. >> DSRawat Pantnagar >> Looks different from images of M. neglecta at the following: >> Malvaceae Fortnight: Malva neglecta from Kashmir-GSJULY41/41 >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4X0q1BtI7kM> >> Malvaceae Fortnight:: Malva neglecta from Chakrata: NS July 07/07 >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/h0ha5G8ydwA> >> Malvaceae Fortnight :: Malva neglecta :: Manali:: PKAJUL12 :: >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/V5LHV6C5AUM> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> >> ---------- >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Date: Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:12 AM >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: C CHADWELL >> Date: 23 September 2016 at 23:25 >> Subject: Re: Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Yes, a Malva. >> >> Dickore & Klimes list 5 species for Ladakh. Stewart listed 4 species - >> these lists do not fully tally. >> >> Klimes records *Malva pamiroalaica* Bijn (not known in Stewart's day) as >> a weed in potato and corn fields, >> in gardens, trampled 'dumps' in villages, along roads, in ditches and >> along irrigation channels in one part >> of Ladakh but given the habitats described, presumably widespread. >> Dickore >> thinks this species may have previously been misidentified as >> *M.parviflora*. >> >> Stewart records *M.sylvestris* (which the plant photographed by Saroj is >> not) as commonly >> cultivated in flower gardens from the plains and as far inland as Leh, >> sometimes appearing to >> be self-sown. But this species is not mentioned by Dickore & Klimes. >> >> Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded in >> the 19th Century in Hunza. >> Again, Dickore & Klimes do not mention this. >> >> *My current thoughts are that this genus needs further investigation in >> Ladakh, so not* >> *in a position to confirm suggested identification of M.neglecta - which >> has been confirmed* >> *as occurring in Ladakh - as have M.pamiroalaica (see above), >> M.parviflora, M.pusilla and* >> *M.sinensis.* >> >> *Shall look into this further when I can but would welcome other >> thoughts/contributions to help this process. * >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >> SLOUGH >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >> SL3 8BE >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >> UK >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> http://www.shpa.org.uk/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>; D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, 23 September 2016, 11:22 >> *Subject:* Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >> >> >> ---------- >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Date: Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> Malva sp. (Malvaceae). >> Please compare with images in *eFI* >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-neglecta> >> . >> Elevation suggest M. neglecta. >> DSRawat Pantnagar >> Looks different from images of M. neglecta at the following: >> Malvaceae Fortnight: Malva neglecta from Kashmir-GSJULY41/41 >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4X0q1BtI7kM> >> Malvaceae Fortnight:: Malva neglecta from Chakrata: NS July 07/07 >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/h0ha5G8ydwA> >> Malvaceae Fortnight :: Malva neglecta :: Manali:: PKAJUL12 :: >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/V5LHV6C5AUM> >> Yes, a Malva. >> >> Dickore & Klimes list 5 species for Ladakh. Stewart listed 4 species - >> these lists do not fully tally. >> >> Klimes records *Malva pamiroalaica* Bijn (not known in Stewart's day) as >> a weed in potato and corn fields, >> in gardens, trampled 'dumps' in villages, along roads, in ditches and >> along irrigation channels in one part >> of Ladakh but given the habitats described, presumably widespread. >> Dickore >> thinks this species may have previously been misidentified as >> *M.parviflora*. >> >> Stewart records *M.sylvestris* (which the plant photographed by Saroj is >> not) as commonly >> cultivated in flower gardens from the plains and as far inland as Leh, >> sometimes appearing to >> be self-sown. But this species is not mentioned by Dickore & Klimes. >> >> Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded in >> the 19th Century in Hunza. >> Again, Dickore & Klimes do not mention this. >> >> *My current thoughts are that this genus needs further investigation in >> Ladakh, so not* >> *in a position to confirm suggested identification of M.neglecta - which >> has been confirmed* >> *as occurring in Ladakh - as have M.pamiroalaica (see above), >> M.parviflora, M.pusilla and* >> *M.sinensis.* >> >> *Shall look into this further when I can but would welcome other >> thoughts/ contributions to help this process. * >> >> >> >> *Best Wishes,Chris Chadwell * >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >> Date: 21 September 2016 at 18:37 >> Subject: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:10 PM >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> I tried further checking on net. >> Did not find any images of *M. pamiroalaica * >> >> Images of *M.pusilla *looked different at >> http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/index_class.php?id=16911 >> >> Appears close to images of *Malva parviflora *L. as per >> http://www.iewf.org/weedid/Malva_parviflora.htm >> >> Also see Malva sinensis Cav. at >> http://taibif.tw/zh/namecode/203690?order=solr_document_3&sort=desc >> >> >> ---------- >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: C CHADWELL >> Date: 28 September 2016 at 23:54 >> Subject: Re: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Thanks for additional images etc. >> >> Have just spotted that Stewart did list *M.pusilla* in his catalogue but >> only as a doubtful species - >> recorded from Karachi.... >> >> I am in agreement that the images from Nubra do not match those (or >> others I have seen) of *M.pusilla.* >> >> The images we have do not show the flowers fully open or fruits, so that >> makes things harder. >> >> It has similarities to the images of *M.sinensis* but I am uncertain >> still. >> >> We have *M.neglecta* in UK. The image I have seen of this does not >> match. >> >> *Do not know what M.pamirolaica is and how to distinguish from M.neglecta >> - they presumably must be* >> *similar for the comment that it may have been misidentified as >> M.neglecta.* >> >> *Still unsure.* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * Best Wishes,Chris Chadwell81 Parlaunt Road >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>SLOUGH >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>SL3 >> 8BE >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>UK >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>http://www.shpa.org.uk/ >> <http://www.shpa.org.uk/> ------------------------------ From: J.M. Garg >> <[email protected] <[email protected]>> To: efloraofindia >> <[email protected] <[email protected]>> Cc: Saroj >> Kasaju <[email protected] <[email protected]>>; D.S Rawat >> <[email protected] <[email protected]>> Sent: >> Wednesday, 28 September 2016, 8:25 Subject: Re: SK112SEP21-2016:ID * >> >> >> ---------- >> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >> Date: Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:32 AM >> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Malva pusilla Sm. ?? >> >> http://botanicalillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=637906 >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> ---------- >> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:27 PM >> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Malvaceae >> >> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin – 2, 13, 18, 19, 22 [2483], 23, 27. Weed in >> potato and corn fields, in gardens, trampled dumpy sites in villages, along >> roads, in ditches and along irrigation ca- nals. Previously possibly >> misidentified as M. parviflora, see Stewart (1972). ?? >> >> A contribution to the vascular plant flora of Lower Ladakh >> ...www.butbn.cas.cz › ladakh › pdf › Klimes_Dickore >> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&ved=2ahUKEwjciZabxNjoAhVTyDgGHQChBHwQFjAQegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.butbn.cas.cz%2Fladakh%2Fpdf%2FKlimes_Dickore.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2EbmadUmKutM7-fOUiVgLr> >> >> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin <https://www.gbif.org/species/3933195> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> >> ---------- >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:32 PM >> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, D.S Rawat < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Yes, May be possible. >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >> >> >> -- Thank you. Saroj Kasaju -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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