Thanks a lot, Ravindran ji. This is what Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018, says about Piper argyrophyllum and P. attenuatum: "24. *Piper wightii *Miq., London J. Bot. 5: 552. 1846. Type:—INDIA, Peninsula Ind. Orientalis, Herb. Wight Prop. Wight 2691/6 (lectotype E00313794 image!; isolectotype Nagapatam, Wight 6 U1476590 image!, syntypes E00313791 image!; Peninsula Ind. Orientalis, Courtallum, Wight 2691 E00313802 image!, U1476593 image!) *Piper wightiana *Wight Icon 6: t 939. 1853 nom. invalid. Distribution:—INDIA: Tamilnadu. Note: Remarks by Hooker (1886: 242) about Wight and Arnott’s specimens are very pertinent. A number of specimens collected by Wight with varying numbers or even under the same number under the name Piper wightii are available at U and E. Images of these specimens have been checked. F. A. W. Miquel’s annotations as ‘Piper wightii n. sp.’ are found on two specimens, one each at U and E, but with slight differences in numbering and labelling but essentially having the number Wight 6. Both are equally good specimens matching the description by Miquel. Of these Wight n. 2691/6, E (00313794) is designated here as the lectotype, and Wight 6 is selected as the isolectotype. Miquel cited two localities in Peninsular India, Nagapatam and Courtallum. Hence, Wight’s Specimens from Peninsular India, Courtallum, mentioned by Wight (1853) and matching the description are recognised here as syntypes. A number of Wight’s specimens at E often have different plants stored under that name. Some of them match with P. argyrophyllum Miq., P. hymenophyllum, or P. hookeri Miq. besides P. wightii itself as correctly noted by Hooker (loc. cit.). Gamble incorrectly identified several of them as P. attenuatum. Wight’s specimens at K are excluded from consideration of typification as only one of them has the mention of locality as Coonoor and this has not been mentioned by Miquel. The name P. wightiana ascribed to Wight (Pl. 1939 of Wight’s Icon) was an error by his (1853:4) own admission. Miquel (1856: 553) suggested forma glabrior for specimens from Dindigul and Courtallum, having glabrous 5-nerved leaves, without formally publishing the combination."
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 22:03, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks a lot, Ravindran ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: P.N RAVINDRAN > Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 21:56 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57 > To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > > > Dear Dr Garg > I am not a taxonomist to answer all your doubts. I am an agricultural > scientist engaged in the collection, study and breeding of pepper and > conservation of genetic resources. Retired long back, and no more involved > in active research My interests are now different. > Still, The species can be found in Gambles Flora (Flora of Madras > Presidency), as well as in the floras of Wynad, Idukki and > Pathanamthitta districts. TBGRI collected it from South Western Ghats and > the species is available there. I carried out the chemical studies but do > not have the information with me. I have also carried out the genetic > relationship studies using clustering analysis and principal component > analysis. This is related closely to Piper argyrophyllum, the difference is > in the pubescence of the latter. > Sorry, I am unable to tell more as I do not have any documents with me. > One Dr KV Saji (IISR, Calicut, 673012) has done the molecular taxonomic > analysis. > With Regards > > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 7:36 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Ravindran ji. >> But why this taxa itself does not find any mention in the following: >> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India >> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.289.2.9> - >> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017 >> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the >> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45 >> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of *Peperomia* >> from >> India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri Lanka as well as the >> Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper was treated under six >> sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present day India. Several >> years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species of Piper and eight >> of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper that were new, >> although they were not described fully until 1925. A number of new species >> and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller Argoviensis (1871), C. >> de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran et al. (1987), Babu et >> al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007), Lekhak et al. (2012), and >> Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some regional accounts of the genus >> Piper were also published, including Rahiman & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, >> Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) >> from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim. Long (1984) published an account >> of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that included records from Sikkim, wherein >> he suggested some new synonyms. A critical examination of these >> publications points to their limitations concerning some of the identities >> and nomenclature. >> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II >> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - >> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018 >> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from >> India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are >> considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The >> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five >> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes >> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with >> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of >> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused >> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to >> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. rhytidocarpum*. >> Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are recorded for three >> species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* P. pothoides*. >> -- >> With regards, >> J. M. Garg >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: P.N RAVINDRAN <> >> Date: Mon 1 Jun, 2020, 6:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57 >> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> >> >> I feel the pics are that of P. attenuatum. This is the most common >> species found in the Western Ghats, >> especially at lower elevations. >> PN Ravindran . >> >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 5:39 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>> As per POWO >>> <http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:680505-1>, >>> *Piper attenuatum *Buch.-Ham. ex Miq. does not have any distribution in >>> S.India. >>> Even this taxa itself does not find any mention in the following: >>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India >>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.289.2.9> - >>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017 >>> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the >>> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45 >>> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of >>> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri >>> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper >>> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present >>> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species >>> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper >>> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number >>> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller >>> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran >>> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007), >>> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some >>> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including Rahiman >>> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal >>> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim. >>> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that >>> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A >>> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations >>> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature. >>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II >>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - >>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018 >>> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from >>> India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are >>> considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The >>> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five >>> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes >>> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with >>> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of >>> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused >>> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to >>> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. rhytidocarpum*. >>> Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are recorded for three >>> species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* P. pothoides*. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 at 01:02 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57 >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: ... Agumbe] >>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16331699121&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfHaV-Nyq1So1znJoW7JBFeI_Tyfw> >>> Agumbe ... Dakshina Kannada, Karnataka >>> *Date*: 26 DEC 2014 ... *Altitude*: about 700 m asl >>> ------------------------------ >>> *Piper* ¿ species ? ... 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