Id as Piper argyrophyllum may be correct as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4183896> specimens: https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fsweetgum.nybg.org%2Fimages3%2F3613%2F413%2F04152116.jpg https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F390656.jpg https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FU.1476681%2Fformat%2Flarge
POWO <http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:680457-1> gives its distribution in SW. India, Sri Lanka. On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 22:16, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks a lot, Ravindran ji. > This is what Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II > <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - > PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018, says about > Piper argyrophyllum and P. attenuatum: > "24. *Piper wightii *Miq., London J. Bot. 5: 552. 1846. > Type:—INDIA, Peninsula Ind. Orientalis, Herb. Wight Prop. Wight 2691/6 > (lectotype E00313794 image!; isolectotype Nagapatam, Wight 6 U1476590 > image!, syntypes E00313791 image!; Peninsula Ind. Orientalis, Courtallum, > Wight 2691 E00313802 image!, U1476593 image!) > *Piper wightiana *Wight Icon 6: t 939. 1853 nom. invalid. > Distribution:—INDIA: Tamilnadu. > Note: Remarks by Hooker (1886: 242) about Wight and Arnott’s specimens are > very pertinent. A number of specimens collected by Wight with varying > numbers or even under the same number under the name Piper wightii are > available at U and E. Images of these specimens have been checked. F. A. W. > Miquel’s annotations as ‘Piper wightii n. sp.’ are found on two specimens, > one each at U and E, but with slight differences in numbering and labelling > but essentially having the number Wight 6. Both are equally good specimens > matching the description by Miquel. Of these > Wight n. 2691/6, E (00313794) is designated here as the lectotype, and > Wight 6 is selected as the isolectotype. Miquel cited two localities in > Peninsular India, Nagapatam and Courtallum. Hence, Wight’s Specimens from > Peninsular India, Courtallum, mentioned by Wight (1853) and matching the > description are recognised here as syntypes. A number of Wight’s specimens > at E often have different plants stored under that name. Some of them match > with P. argyrophyllum Miq., P. hymenophyllum, or P. hookeri Miq. besides P. > wightii itself as correctly noted by Hooker (loc. cit.). Gamble incorrectly > identified several of them as P. attenuatum. Wight’s specimens at K are > excluded from consideration of typification as only one of them has the > mention of locality as Coonoor and this has not been mentioned by Miquel. > The name P. wightiana ascribed to Wight (Pl. 1939 of Wight’s Icon) was an > error by his (1853:4) own admission. Miquel (1856: 553) suggested forma > glabrior for specimens from Dindigul and Courtallum, having glabrous > 5-nerved leaves, without formally publishing the combination." > > On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 22:03, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks a lot, Ravindran ji. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: P.N RAVINDRAN >> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 21:56 >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57 >> To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >> >> >> Dear Dr Garg >> I am not a taxonomist to answer all your doubts. I am an agricultural >> scientist engaged in the collection, study and breeding of pepper and >> conservation of genetic resources. Retired long back, and no more involved >> in active research My interests are now different. >> Still, The species can be found in Gambles Flora (Flora of Madras >> Presidency), as well as in the floras of Wynad, Idukki and >> Pathanamthitta districts. TBGRI collected it from South Western Ghats and >> the species is available there. I carried out the chemical studies but do >> not have the information with me. I have also carried out the genetic >> relationship studies using clustering analysis and principal component >> analysis. This is related closely to Piper argyrophyllum, the difference is >> in the pubescence of the latter. >> Sorry, I am unable to tell more as I do not have any documents with me. >> One Dr KV Saji (IISR, Calicut, 673012) has done the molecular taxonomic >> analysis. >> With Regards >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 7:36 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Ravindran ji. >>> But why this taxa itself does not find any mention in the following: >>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India >>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.289.2.9> - >>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017 >>> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the >>> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45 >>> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of >>> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri >>> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper >>> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present >>> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species >>> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper >>> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number >>> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller >>> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran >>> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007), >>> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some >>> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including Rahiman >>> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal >>> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim. >>> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that >>> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A >>> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations >>> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature. >>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II >>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - >>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018 >>> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from >>> India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are >>> considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The >>> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five >>> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes >>> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with >>> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of >>> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused >>> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to >>> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. rhytidocarpum*. >>> Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are recorded for three >>> species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* P. pothoides*. >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J. M. Garg >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: P.N RAVINDRAN <> >>> Date: Mon 1 Jun, 2020, 6:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57 >>> To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> I feel the pics are that of P. attenuatum. This is the most common >>> species found in the Western Ghats, >>> especially at lower elevations. >>> PN Ravindran . >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 5:39 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> As per POWO >>>> <http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:680505-1>, >>>> *Piper attenuatum *Buch.-Ham. ex Miq. does not have any distribution >>>> in S.India. >>>> Even this taxa itself does not find any mention in the following: >>>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India >>>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.289.2.9> - >>>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017 >>>> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the >>>> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45 >>>> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of >>>> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri >>>> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper >>>> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present >>>> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species >>>> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper >>>> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number >>>> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller >>>> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran >>>> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007), >>>> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some >>>> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including Rahiman >>>> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal >>>> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim. >>>> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that >>>> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A >>>> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations >>>> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature. >>>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II >>>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - >>>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018 >>>> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from >>>> India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are >>>> considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The >>>> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five >>>> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes >>>> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with >>>> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of >>>> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused >>>> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to >>>> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. >>>> rhytidocarpum*. Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are >>>> recorded for three species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* >>>> P. pothoides*. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 at 01:02 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57 >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: ... Agumbe] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16331699121&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfHaV-Nyq1So1znJoW7JBFeI_Tyfw> >>>> Agumbe ... Dakshina Kannada, Karnataka >>>> *Date*: 26 DEC 2014 ... *Altitude*: about 700 m asl >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *Piper* ¿ species ? ... (family: Piperaceae) >>>> [image: Piper sp.] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16176193326&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcc6bsaWhz2NjqS43u1-_9ICHqqLA> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Piper sp.] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16202047595&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnIlzQIXHjSqKGQRrzji9hrVzOvA> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Piper sp.] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F15579648924&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcNxxgFCZlUuIKiA9_SJO_lACYYKw> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Piper sp.] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16014558838&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfpriqO7gcb6vJ5Nx6IX0BLOB-W9g> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>>> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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